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[FluffyMcDeath]

It must be because Palestinians don't care about their children. Israelis certainly wouldn't kill them if their parents really loved them. Israelis wouldn't kill Palestinians at all if Palestinians were real human beings instead of beasts on two legs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...220635,00.html

One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail. -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

[T_Bone]

FluffyMcDeath wrote:
It must be because Palestinians don't care about their children. Israelis certainly wouldn't kill them if their parents really loved them. Israelis wouldn't kill Palestinians at all if Palestinians were real human beings instead of beasts on two legs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...220635,00.html

One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail. -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

:inquisitive:

Where did I say Israel didn't shoot Palestinian children?

Sure I said that I despise the Palestinian practice of encouraging children to instigate the Israeli army, but that doesn't mean I hold them blameless.

I tell my children not to play in the street, but I'd still blame a drunk driver for mowing them over. The fact I hold the driver responsible doesn't mean I'm going to encourage my children to play in the street.

Israel is behaving badly. That doesn't change the fact that the Palestinians want to push them into the sea.

[KennyR]

The parents are definitely to blame, for having the children in the first place. If they really loved them, they'd hide them behind three inches of armour plate, right?

[T_Bone]

KennyR wrote:
The parents are definitely to blame, for having the children in the first place. If they really loved them, they'd hide them behind three inches of armour plate, right?

That wouldn't be a bad idea considering the environment they're being brought up in Hell, if the Israeli's can have a wall, why not armour for the children? :-P

[Fade]

I will state up front that I don't know the facts on this one way or another.

That said, I can tell you this: In the US army, you are never taught to shoot at someone by aiming at their head, even if you are a sniper. The chances of missing your target goes up by 500% over shooting at the torso. I am also not saying it can't be done, only that the average soldier doesn't have the ability to do it consistly. So I find it strange that every one of these people were shot in the head. It sounds more like the Russian form of assination, where a prisoner is shot in the head at close range, usually from the rear. No Russians are involved so who knows where this tactic came from.

[KennyR]

Yes Fade, that's true - in the army people are taught to aim for the 'T-section': head, spine, chest. But elite snipers are taught to aim for the head to kill, always. It's an almost sure kill. Sniper head shots were so common in both world wars that many static machine gunners had an extra plate of steel welded to the front of their helmets.

And we have to consider the wounds. From close, execution style, a high powered weapon would take a child's head off. Any case where there is actually an exit wound in the head and not total capitation is a long range shot. Lower velocity weapons like handguns wouldn't leave large exit wounds except from practically point blank, and in that case it would leave powder tattoos. No doctor could mistake any of these.

Finally, I doubt these snipers are picking targets under orders, so a miss isn't going to give their position away anyway. Probably they've been told to surreptitiously to spread terror and fear among the Palestinians. The occassional child murder might be more like fun for them than business, because hey, who's going to question them for it? Isn't war great?

[FluffyMcDeath]

Fade wrote:

That said, I can tell you this: In the US army, you are never tought to shoot at someone by aiming at their head, even if you are a sniper. The chances of missing your target goes up by 500% over shooting at the torso.

Thomas Hurndall was shot in the head by IDF snipers in Rafah.
Brian Avery was shot in the face in Jenin by the IDF.

But, no doubt you also noticed that other people had been shot other places. The chances of you being examined in the morgue go up if you are killed rather than just wounded so no doubt this skews the results a tad.

[Glaucus]

Israel is behaving badly. That doesn't change the fact that the Palestinians want to push them into the sea.

You see, it's those statements that bug me. If you said that BOTH sides wanted to push the other side into the sea I'd give you some credit, but to say that only the Palestinians are unreasonable is just silly.

- Mike

[T_Bone]

Glaucus wrote:

You see, it's those statements that bug me. If you said that BOTH sides wanted to push the other side into the sea I'd give you some credit, but to say that only the Palestinians are unreasonable is just silly.

- Mike

How does the above get read as "Only the Palestinians are unreasonable?"
(From the same people that generally accuse the right of seeing things in black and white)

[FluffyMcDeath]

Yup, Israeli sniper.