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Old 05-08-2004, 07:31 PM   #1
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Default Knife control :-)

Since we donīt get anywhere with guncontrol!
Here in Sweden there is a law aganst carrying a knife in public places.
Thats something for the american pro-gun lobbyist to try to understand!
How about britain, do you have the same law?
Netherlands?

Is somebody going to change their avatar to a big samuraisword to demostrate their godgiven constitutional rigth to wield long blade weapons? :-)
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Old 05-08-2004, 11:50 PM   #2
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Default Re: Knife control :-)

There is a similar law in Norway. No knifes nor guns are allowed in public (the exception is if you are hunting or fishing). And I think that is the way it should be! A knife can be as dangerous as a gun used at a close distance.
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Old 05-09-2004, 02:57 AM   #3
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Default Re: Knife control :-)

Of course. There's a restriction on the length of the blade, although I'm not sure what the length might be. Anyway, I cary a little swiss army knife (1 inch blade) with me wherever I go, and I've been refused at bars because of it.

Btw, for some odd reason, this reminds me of the scene in Kill Bill where Uma takes a samuri sword on the plane and you see it sitting on the seat next to her. Suttle but funny, I like that. :-D

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Old 05-09-2004, 03:59 AM   #4
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Is that law only a couple of years old like ours?
It was really needed, half off the 15-year olds boys was carrying a knife for "protection".

I donīt understand farmers who always carry a knife on their belt. Itīs more practical to keep it in the toolbox in the tractor. No worry about dropping it.


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Old 05-09-2004, 04:16 AM   #5
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Of course. There's a restriction on the length of the blade, although I'm not sure what the length might be. Anyway, I cary a little swiss army knife (1 inch blade) with me wherever I go, and I've been refused at bars because of it.

Btw, for some odd reason, this reminds me of the scene in Kill Bill where Uma takes a samuri sword on the plane and you see it sitting on the seat next to her. Suttle but funny, I like that. :-D
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Well, itīs wasnīt a nailfile or metalfork so itīs okay then :-)
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Default Re: Knife control :-)

Here in the Netherlands, there's also restriction on carrying a knife. Let's say, you may not carry a much bigger knife than a pocket knife on the street. At home you can of course have household knives (but you may not carry them 'ready-to-use' outside)
But there's also a restriction on the length of the blade size to that.

My claymore, for instance, is blunt. Otherwise it's illegal.
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Default Re: Knife control :-)

There's a restriction here too - two inches is the maximum length of knife you can legally carry. Even if you carry a knife shorter than this, you need a good reason if you get caught with it or it's eight months in jail for possession of a lethal weapon. You can get searched in public places, although generally only large rowdy groups or football fans will get searched.

Facial mutilation (especially using Stanley Knives) was a common gang thing in Western Scotland a while ago. That's exactly what happened to Glasgow actor Tommy Flanagan who's starred in Braveheart and Gladiator. Those scars are not makeup.



The authorities here saw the problem and did something about it. I dare say if we had the American attitude we'd have a lot more people with the right to bear knives but a lot more dead and scarred people. And maybe more Hollywood actors. :-P
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The authorities here saw the problem and did something about it. I dare say if we had the American attitude we'd have a lot more people with the right to bear knives but a lot more dead and scarred people. And maybe more Hollywood actors. :-P
On the bright side though, they wouldn't have to spend so long in make-up! :-)
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Hoya!

In France, I have always heard that one could carry a knife as long as the blade was no longer that the palm of the hand. By this I mean from one side of the hand to the other, not from the wrist to the base of the fingers.

But I think it is a joke for many people have differents hands... :-)
I should ask...

Be funky

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@ Dan
"Since we donīt get anywhere with guncontrol!
Here in Sweden there is a law aganst carrying a knife in public places."
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It doesn't seem to do you much good though.
When Olaf Palme, the Swedish PM was killed, he was shot, but when Anna Lindh, the Swedish Foreign Minister was killed she was stabbed to death.

Although the Neo-nazis in Sweden do prefer to kill people by stabbing them in the head, there doesn't seem to be too much of a downside for them. The usual penalty for murder is a life sentence, which I think you Swedes consider to be only 10 to 15 years.

What I don't understand, are countries like the Netherlands where it is legal to kill off their old and sick, but don't want the death penalty for murderers. I guess they think murderers can be rehabilitated, but the old and sick are not worth the effort.
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The usual penalty for murder is a life sentence, which I think you Swedes consider to be only 10 to 15 years.
So does most of the Western world, apart from those the US.

Not that I'm disagreeing, this time. I've seen murderers get 7 years, get it reduced to 3 for good behaviour, being out in 18 months on parole...you get the picture. A lifetime in jail or execution might not be much of a deterrent, but 18 months for murder is coming close to making murder worth it.
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What I don't understand, are countries like the Netherlands where it is legal to kill off their old and sick, but don't want the death penalty for murderers. I guess they think murderers can be rehabilitated, but the old and sick are not worth the effort.
Only when these old and sick want it themselves and there is no cure. So in fact, it is suicide.
Of course we take every measure to make their lives worth living.

And murderers can be rehabilitated, but not always. It's called 'TBS' (Ter Beschikking van de Staat - In posession of the state, literally translated) And in reality it can become a lifelong sentence if a murderer cannot be rehabilitated.

The reality behind your mindset is that you kill your imprisoned ppl, and you let the suffering suffer.
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"The reality behind your mindset is that you kill your imprisoned ppl, and you let the suffering suffer."
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No the reality here is we value our old people, and don't particularly want our murderers free in a few years to kill someone else. We are funny that way,
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Very funny, if a person suffers pain beyond your imagination and without perspective.
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Is that sort of like putting down a horse with a broken leg?
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