I finally was able the Mediator i4000D v3.3 version working!!!!
This was after several months of frustration and several months waiting to get it back from Elbox. etc....

But to Elbox's credit it now works great!!!!


Overall it is quite nice.  It works well with a v3.3 Radeon 9250 I got fairly cheaply on fleebay and even nicer is the fact that the Sonnet 7200 G4 works very well without modification with the version 13.1 pci.library and Jenkin's latest sonnet powerpc.library.

The question I have for all of you is how useful is Warp3d?

It look like the mediator supports warp3d with Voodoo, but not with Radeon.
So I guess my questions are:

1)  How important/useful is Warp3d?
2)  Is there a Radeon Warp3d library?
3)  If not Which is faster in PPC games a Voodoo3 with Warp3d or Radeon 9250 without?

1)  If you want to play the games that support Warp3D, then you don't want to play them in software mode.  If you don't want to play any of the Warp3D games then not useful.
2)  No, there is no Radeon Warp3D driver, this needs to be written or ported from OS4.
3)  A Voodoo3 in Warp3D mode will be 2-4x+ faster than a Radeon in software mode and look better too.

Pity, under OS4 or MorphOS the Radeon would dust a Voodoo3. And both of those OS' support Warp3D funtionality with the Radeon.

Anyone know why there isn't a Radeon driver for legacy applications?
It seems kind of dumb considering it shouldn't be that hard to backport.

In fact, the R200 drivers under both OS4 and MorphOS are so mature that they perform really well.
Many MorphOS users didn't move to higher cards when the R300 drivers were introduced because everything above the R200 (under MorphOS) isn't W3D compatible.
And the performance gain was less than you'd assume.

Still, the Voodoo3's performance isn't that shabby.
It beats the other solutions (except for the previously mentioned Radeon).

It would be helpful if elbox would make a warp3d driver for the radeon particularly since they support if for 2D video and memory on the mediator.  And as Iggy says R200 solutions on platforms related to amigaOS 3.1 do have warp3d drivers.  

Funny I have a R200 card in a G5 mac with MorphOS on it.

Not that funny, I've suggested that to others before.
Its the one way you can get W3D compatibility with the G5.
And a 9200 with a Mac rom can used the full AGP 8X bandwidth (although a 9000 isn't significantly slower).

The R200 drivers under MorphOS and OS4 are very mature and perform surprisingly well.

Since Hyperion has an R200 driver for OS4, and they want to continue to develop OS3.1, why not push them to support the R200?
After all, OS4 supports the mediator, why shouldn't OS3.1?

If you wait for Elbox to do it....well we all know how long that wait could be (and we're not getting any younger).

I don't think Elbox are ever going to publish a Warp3D driver for a Radeon as they haven't even fixed the problems with the Voodoo 4/5.  I doubt Hyperion will port any Radeon Warp3D drivers for OS 3.X since it's a significant amount of effort and they have other things to do.  Maybe a bounty could entice someone to do it.  I'm in for $50.