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Offline ChuckyTopic starter

Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« on: December 02, 2017, 08:47:47 PM »
Many maybe know that I bought 2 PCBs from Phase5 for BPPCs.

I got them this easter. but never really done anything with them.
after Amiga32 I decided to finally move the components from my busted BPPC to a new PCB.

Did that..

but had an issue..  it seem that the boards COMPLETLY lacks the GND plane.

This is why the P5 boards are not in the market yet.
However. Phase5 refuses to do anything about this. as.. apparently I did broke the pcb..

So I made a video about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJYIj-92IVE&t
(YES camera is %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!ty  and it is after FB livefeed )

so.. this is what you can expect..

ADMINS:  if this break any rules.. I am sorry and please remove this.
but this is imortant before anyone does any prepayment.
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Offline amiadudeorwat

Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2017, 09:39:33 PM »
You must have damaged it.  Both of them.  :roflmao::rofl:

Quote from: Chucky;833718
Many maybe know that I bought 2 PCBs from Phase5 for BPPCs.

I got them this easter. but never really done anything with them.
after Amiga32 I decided to finally move the components from my busted BPPC to a new PCB.

Did that..

but had an issue..  it seem that the boards COMPLETLY lacks the GND plane.

This is why the P5 boards are not in the market yet.
However. Phase5 refuses to do anything about this. as.. apparently I did broke the pcb..

So I made a video about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJYIj-92IVE&t
(YES camera is %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!ty  and it is after FB livefeed )

so.. this is what you can expect..

ADMINS:  if this break any rules.. I am sorry and please remove this.
but this is imortant before anyone does any prepayment.
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Offline ChuckyTopic starter

Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2017, 09:51:53 PM »
yes!  especially the UNTOUCHED one.  I CAREFULLY split the board in half and sanded off the GND plane and glued it together.
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Offline amiadudeorwat

Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2017, 10:48:51 PM »
Quote from: Chucky;833721
yes!  especially the UNTOUCHED one.  I CAREFULLY split the board in half and sanded off the GND plane and glued it together.

Or maybe when you picked them up, you folded the pcbs in half to fit in your shirt pocket.

It's for the best, just a sign you should have spent more time working on those A3660 upgrades.
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Offline ChuckyTopic starter

Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2017, 11:02:21 PM »
but please remember I am the incompetent person here..

you know. the guy at Amiga32 that showed a CPU board with a booting 060 cpu.. :)
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Offline ChuckyTopic starter

Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2017, 01:02:42 AM »
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Offline amiadudeorwat

Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2017, 02:35:04 AM »
It seems like the boards are working as intended.  They are just 160 Euro drink coasters.
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Offline Bennymee

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Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2017, 06:25:07 PM »
Quote from: Chucky;833718
Many maybe know that I bought 2 PCBs from Phase5 for BPPCs.

I got them this easter. but never really done anything with them.
after Amiga32 I decided to finally move the components from my busted BPPC to a new PCB.

Did that..

but had an issue..  it seem that the boards COMPLETLY lacks the GND plane.

This is why the P5 boards are not in the market yet.
However. Phase5 refuses to do anything about this. as.. apparently I did broke the pcb..

So I made a video about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJYIj-92IVE&t
(YES camera is %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!ty  and it is after FB livefeed )

so.. this is what you can expect..

ADMINS:  if this break any rules.. I am sorry and please remove this.
but this is imortant before anyone does any prepayment.


Easter is almost 9 monts ago, there should be a new version by now with GND :)
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Offline mechy

Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2017, 07:02:56 PM »
Quote from: Chucky;833718
Many maybe know that I bought 2 PCBs from Phase5 for BPPCs.

I got them this easter. but never really done anything with them.
after Amiga32 I decided to finally move the components from my busted BPPC to a new PCB.

Did that..

but had an issue..  it seem that the boards COMPLETLY lacks the GND plane.

This is why the P5 boards are not in the market yet.
However. Phase5 refuses to do anything about this. as.. apparently I did broke the pcb..

So I made a video about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJYIj-92IVE&t
(YES camera is %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!ty  and it is after FB livefeed )

so.. this is what you can expect..

ADMINS:  if this break any rules.. I am sorry and please remove this.
but this is imortant before anyone does any prepayment.

We dont need no stinking ground plane!!! lol
how could they miss something so incredibly important. Its plain to see they must of never built one. Is this a pcb house quality control issue or P5's boo boo? Are they sending people bad proto's?
I wonder how many of these bad boards they have? lol
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Offline ChuckyTopic starter

Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2017, 08:06:59 PM »
they cannot ever have built one..  as he "liked" the picture when I posted that I was starting to solder my board.. IF he had built them, he would know about the issue and tell.  so..  guess why we doesn't see anyting except empty boards?

my guiess:  he cannot solder a through hole resistor.. yet less those mach-chips on the bppc..  he maybe doesn't even have the equipment needed to program the chips. or.. EVEN the damn chips?
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Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2017, 08:23:04 PM »
So, they made these as a 2 layer board instead of a 4 layer board (or 4 instead of 6)?
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Offline ChuckyTopic starter

Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2017, 08:28:15 PM »
nahhh..  as my video sjhow..  internal layers is there..

I have seen screenshots of the board so I would say a 8 layer board.  BUUUT! my guess is that he simply.. did not include the GND gerberfile when ordering.
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Offline HammerD

Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2017, 03:45:38 AM »
Quote from: Chucky;833758
nahhh..  as my video sjhow..  internal layers is there..

I have seen screenshots of the board so I would say a 8 layer board.  BUUUT! my guess is that he simply.. did not include the GND gerberfile when ordering.

I read the thread with you speaking to the phase 5 guy.  I will say it's total crap and he should have requested that you send the boards back and he should have immediately issued you a full refund.

He also should have admitted that the GND was forgotten, ok, simple mistake, and this could have been solved quickly and quietly without any damage to his company.  Now it is a PR nightmare.  Obviously he is not educated in how to be a successful leader, entrepreneur or how to handle customer complaints, from which by all evidence you have given is a valid complaint.

Reading how this guy responds to you makes me NOT want to ever do business with him.  I didn't trust this phase5 re-birth to begin with and now I even more don't trust it.

Until shipping, testable, verifiable products are available and tested by independent 3rd party reviewers I am not giving that guy ANY money.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2017, 03:52:07 AM by HammerD »
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Offline Acill

Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2017, 05:24:21 AM »
I consider Chucky a good friend of mine now and it pissed me off having to see him go through this. He is respected like no other and his reputation is legendary. I take a lot of advice and guidance from him in the work I do even. Heck, half of the larger project I have taken on is a direct result of his encouragement and being motivated by his projects!  

I suspected from the start this Phase5 crap was going to be another scam. I lost money on the preorders from the G3 PPC boards that were going to be released at the end of its life, I would never have trusted my hard earned money with them again on a preorder, even if its not the same people this time. This guy trashing Chucky is the final straw for me. I will never in a million years support this guy!
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Re: Issues with the BPPC2 and GND Plane
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2017, 01:50:16 PM »
I decided to ask them on their Facebook page if it is true about the boards being faulty, that the ground plane is missing. Their response was to delete my question and block me. Totally unacceptable, companies that treat potential customers with such contempt deserve to go out of business
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