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Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« on: December 02, 2016, 09:59:44 AM »
My 1084 monitor is dead for years. It turns on and I can hear the noise from its board and even the audio but no picture :(
My Amiga 2000 has only mono composite. All I have is the RGB to Scart+Audio cable + Scart to Composite+S-video adapter.
Can I make RGB to Composite/Component converter? =(

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2016, 10:09:04 AM »
I had similar issue, it was the infamous "flyback transformer".
Better sorry than worry.
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2016, 10:13:52 AM »
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I had similar issue, it was the infamous "flyback transformer".


What's that? Is it possible to repair it?
I remember my dad was using it as TV when I was child, that's why it died soon x)
I know someone here that sell A520 for $40, don't know if it's worth or not.
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2016, 10:43:11 AM »
Maybe sometimes, you just have to realize that old hardware breaks down.

I used a flatscreen tv/monitor with scart input, the picture was perfect, takes up less space and uses less power.
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2016, 10:43:13 AM »
Why don't connect it to your LCD-TV with your RGB to SCART cable?
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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2016, 11:11:00 AM »
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What's that? Is it possible to repair it?
I remember my dad was using it as TV when I was child, that's why it died soon x)
I know someone here that sell A520 for $40, don't know if it's worth or not.


well its a common cause of failure. There is this excellent site:

 http://www.jammarcade.net/commodore-1084s-p1-repair-part-ii/

but dont try it, high voltage, leave it to professional, blabla.
Is there a high pitched noise?
The hardest part is finding replacement. Original is quite pricey. I found cheap Chinese copy, locally, think it was less than 10eur.
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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2016, 11:27:07 AM »
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Why don't connect it to your LCD-TV with your RGB to SCART cable?


My TV has no Scart port, only HDMI/Component/Composite.
I thought it works only with 1084, so can I connect it to any TV with scart port?

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well its a common cause of failure. There is this excellent site:

 http://www.jammarcade.net/commodore-1084s-p1-repair-part-ii/

but dont try it, high voltage, leave it to professional, blabla.
Is there a high pitched noise?
The hardest part is finding replacement. Original is quite pricey. I found cheap Chinese copy, locally, think it was less than 10eur.


Yes, there is high pitched noise and the power LED doesn't turn on but it's powered on.
It's the Philips model of 1084 (non-S)
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2016, 11:32:38 AM »
Generally saying YES, but old scartcables don't usually have all the needed wires.

http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/Amiga/amiga_hacks/Amiga_SCART/amiga_scart.html

Most of LDC-TVs also works as a flicker fixer, so you will get flicker free hires interlaced mode as bonus.
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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2016, 12:04:04 PM »
Or you can get yourself a nice Indivision and use just about any modern monitor or TV in existence. :lol:
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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2016, 12:26:31 PM »
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Or you can get yourself a nice Indivision and use just about any modern monitor or TV in existence. :lol:


"Help the poor boy" :hammer:

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2016, 12:29:27 PM »
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Or you can get yourself a nice Indivision and use just about any modern monitor or TV in existence. :lol:


What part of "poor boy" did you miss Mike?
That is an expensive option.
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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2016, 02:11:24 PM »
You could try using a GBS-8220...  they go for around $20.00.   I used it briefly before I bought an indivision.
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2016, 03:54:25 PM »
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What part of "poor boy" did you miss Mike?
That is an expensive option.


My time is worth more than money. If I can buy a thing for $90 and have it installed and working in 15 minutes, vs. posting questions on forums, buying two or three $20 cables, moving the TV, plugging them in, unplugging, pushing buttons and trying different settings, going back and reading more forums, etc., etc.

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2016, 04:22:40 PM »
The flyback transformer is a high frequency transformer that produces the HV for the CRT anode as well as several other voltages. If a replacement part is available then changing it is fairly straightforward but you do have to be careful poking around in monitors. I've repaired CRT monitors for decades and could fix it if you happen to be local to me (Seattle area) but shipping both ways would be cost prohibitive. Whatever the case don't throw it out, CRTs are not manufactured anymore and the last tube rebuilder shut down a couple years ago. What's out there now is what we have and when they're gone they're gone.
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2016, 04:50:53 PM »
It's all very well saying hoard old CRTs even if you don't know anyone nearby to fix it but seriously, who has the space? I managed 28 years out of my Acorn ADF-32 28-ADF32 using with both an Atari ST in the 80s and early 90s and then my AGA Amiga since 1995 and I consider that good service. Even when the power button broke I continued to use it (it was stuck 'ON') by plugged it into an Eyetech external Amiga PSU. When it broke this year I just thought it's seen its day to be honest and over a quarter of a century's use is awesome! Sometimes you just have to let go and I'm very happy with my Benq BL702A ;-)
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