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More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« on: April 29, 2016, 12:20:28 AM »
There is more mystery about the CD1200's Successor. Does the Q-Drive 1241 with an external CD-Rom drive provide you with the same functions as the CD1200? By this I mean that the CD1200 featured the CD32's Akiko chip, therefore turning any Amiga 1200 into a CD32-compatible system. Does the Q-Drive 1241 use the CD32'S Akiko chip or does it just give you an emulator of a CD32 instead? Thanks.
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Re: More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2016, 12:33:38 AM »
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Re: More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2016, 01:23:20 AM »
Could have been posted in the other thread instead of starting a new too.  :)
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Re: More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2016, 02:17:05 AM »
So the Q-Drive 1241 is not the same as the CD1200? Does it use the Akiko chip?
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Re: More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2016, 03:08:49 AM »
Typical Commodore cock-up.

They should have released the CD32 and a version of the Amiga A1200 (with a built in CD drive) at same time in order to share the explosion of CD awesomeness that followed (as in old 4MB A500 games copied onto a new 660MB shiny disc).

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Re: More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2016, 03:12:08 AM »
Nothing uses the Akiko chip.

Seriously though, I have a CD32 and I have played CD32 games using the AsimCDFS CD32 emulation on the A1200 and it all works the same. Only a few titles "took advantage" of the new custom chipset member.

Not sure what your obsession is with the Akiko chip but even the people that designed it weren't impressed with it; It was a rush job. If big C= didn't go bust Monica would have supplanted it anyway.
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Re: More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2016, 07:50:55 AM »
Wing Commander was the showcase for Akiko functionality with C2P routines. The programming was messed up however so again the Akiko promised so much but failed to make any difference in practise due to more mistakes! The CD32 should have had an 030 and Fast Ram not this joke of a chip :-(
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Re: More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2016, 08:20:06 AM »
Indeed, 030+FastRAM would have made a huge impact on both CD32 and A1200, certainly would have had a huge impact on the price tag :)
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Re: More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2016, 10:24:30 AM »
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Wing Commander was the showcase for Akiko functionality with C2P routines. The programming was messed up however so again the Akiko promised so much but failed to make any difference in practise due to more mistakes! The CD32 should have had an 030 and Fast Ram not this joke of a chip :-(


Akiko does accelerate c2p on a 68020 with just chip ram, that is all it ever promised.

AGA should have had chunky display modes, it was discussed but due to time/money limits caused by AAA then it didn't happen.
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Re: More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2016, 11:53:15 AM »
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There is more mystery about the CD1200's Successor. Does the Q-Drive 1241 with an external CD-Rom drive provide you with the same functions as the CD1200? By this I mean that the CD1200 featured the CD32's Akiko chip, therefore turning any Amiga 1200 into a CD32-compatible system. Does the Q-Drive 1241 use the CD32'S Akiko chip or does it just give you an emulator of a CD32 instead? Thanks.

It seems unlikely that the Q-Drive 1241 would have a Commodore proprietary Akiko chip on board when it wasn't even a Commodore product.  It was made by Archos of France.  In fact, by the looks of the logo on it, it was an Escom / Amiga Technologies era product (produced years after Commodore was dead).
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Re: More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2016, 04:40:09 PM »
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So the Q-Drive 1241 is not the same as the CD1200? Does it use the Akiko chip?

If you really want to run CD32 games on A1200 (with CDDA). Do what I did and mod your A1200 with slot loading DVD-RW Writer and set it up to boot CD32 discs using squirrel CD32 emulator. And before anyone says, YES it works with everything I have thrown at it. I have however, tweaked it over the years to become perfect.
Means if I want to do some testing on either CD32 or A1200 I can with ease, :).
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Re: More Mystery about the CD1200's Successor
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2016, 09:49:56 PM »
I have a Q Drive. It's a simple PCMCIA to CD interface, a rebadged Overdrive. The driver is crash-prone and very poorly implemented - messes up your startup-sequence to no end.

If you want CD32 compatibility, all you need is the special version of cd.device from the Dev CD that acts as a wrapper. That way you can create a CD32-style CD0: that uses Commodore's CDFS and maps to, say, scsi.device unit 4. Then a program called CDBoot which mounts CD0: early in the startup-sequence and invites you to boot from it if a disc is detected. CDBoot was commercial, but it may have been moved to freeware not long ago - can't recall.
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