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Old 02-23-2004, 08:27 AM   #16
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Default Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

Okay. Am I to read 'has the rights to' as 'is owner of'? Or as 'cannot be legally locked out of prior licensing agreements'? Both cases would force all parties back to the negiotiating table, so that's good news.

However, what is to stop Amiga, Inc. from swiftly splitting up the proposed OS development path into a DE-only and AOS4-only one? Or renaming future upgrades to the AOS4 4.0.x as to avoid selling a 4.2 product? (I'm sure that they cannot easily do so because of agreements with Hyperion, but still.) I can't recall DE as being that big a hit, so they might decide to drop DE-support in its entirety, turning the court ruling into a Phyrric victory if nothing else.

In other words, I'm still confused, but I take it that's a normal reaction... :-)
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Old 02-23-2004, 08:35 AM   #17
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Default Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

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In other words, I'm still confused, but I take it that's a normal reaction...
Of course it's confusing, it's mostly legal mumbo jumbo:-) What does seem pretty clear is Genesi definately won their lawsuit, and *appear* to be in the position they state. <--
Notice I said APPEAR, I have not read the contracts and I am not a lawyer. I'm just munching popcorn enjoying the show.
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Old 02-23-2004, 08:46 AM   #18
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Default Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

One 'good' thing in AmigaInc was that they kept everything secret and avoided confusing their followers with complex issues. OTOH, they also did hide lot relevant info from Amigians, but that was unavoidable cause othervice people would have lost faith to them years ago.

For this particular.. I don't speculate. It may well happen... But I'll rather wait and see.
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:02 AM   #19
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Default Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

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Hyperion OWN OS4
Of course, and they will continue to do so! It might even be called *Amiga* OS4, who knows?

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Old 02-23-2004, 09:20 AM   #20
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Default Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

To be perfectly honest, I'm a bit dissapointed... I was expecting some massive climax... you know like you get in Perry Mason...

but no, no fireworks, no gun battles... just the damp squib of McEwans dreams of being a dotcom millionare fizzing out into the nothingness...

I might have to start watching soap operas now :-(
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:23 AM   #21
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Default Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

What does this mean for AOS 4 and the Amiga One?
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:26 AM   #22
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Default Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

It looks like Amiga Inc has become a victim of their own PR-bulls*it - Genesi have turned Amiga Inc's fantasties back on them. We all know that when they announced they'd changed their minds about killing off AmigaOS, and that OS4.2 and onwards, would be magically merged with DE was a complete dillusion.

Now, thanks to Amiga Inc's belief that nobody would challenge their unrealistic fantasy-plans for the future, Hyperion are facing a license change.

Let's hope that Amiga Inc is put down quickly so they can't do any more damage to the community.



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Old 02-23-2004, 09:36 AM   #23
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Default Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

Trying work out the Amiga-Genesi situation is like an erection, the more you think about it, the harder it gets :-)
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:36 AM   #24
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Default Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

I think the outcome is far worse than I predicted. And, before I rant I'm going to investigate further. I'm seeing a lot of posts not making sense.

I was warned that moobunny has a lot of fiction. Whether or not someone used their usernames to place fake posts or not, I wouldn't recommend trusting anything posted there. Better get the facts here at Amiga.org.
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:38 AM   #25
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Default Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

Moobunny again??????
i rarely go there - as another poster said, i see these things only when someone points them out - but as near as i can see, Moobunny is just another place for spam. and insults flying!
are we supposed tp believe head of companies go there to post policy??? (and people calling each other "idiots"!!!!)
If so, that's sad!
why are people airing their dirty laundry in public?????

jesus, it's disgusting!
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:08 AM   #26
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Default Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

Amiga.com appears to be down. Neat.
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:10 AM   #27
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Amiga.com appears to be down. Neat.
Nope... not here
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:13 AM   #28
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Moobunny again??????
i rarely go there - as another poster said, i see these things only when someone points them out - but as near as i can see, Moobunny is just another place for spam. and insults flying!
are we supposed tp believe head of companies go there to post policy??? (and people calling each other "idiots"!!!!)
If so, that's sad!
why are people airing their dirty laundry in public?????

jesus, it's disgusting!
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:18 AM   #29
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Amiga.com appears to be down. Neat.
Nope... not here
Well it is here in CA. DNS timeout. You may have it cached on your DNS server. I've tried two different networks.
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:23 AM   #30
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Skickar signaler till amiga.com [69.44.18.43] med 32 byte data:

Svar från 69.44.18.43: byte=32 tid=137ms TTL=50
Svar från 69.44.18.43: byte=32 tid=134ms TTL=50
Svar från 69.44.18.43: byte=32 tid=144ms TTL=50
Svar från 69.44.18.43: byte=32 tid=143ms TTL=50

Ping-statistik för 69.44.18.43:
Paket: Skickade = 4, mottagna = 4, Förlorade = 0 (0 %),
Ungefärligt överföringstid i millisekunder:
Lägsta = 134 ms, Högsta = 144 ms, Medel = 139 ms
I can ping it...
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