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Offline danwoodTopic starter

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Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« on: July 15, 2015, 12:08:06 AM »
Wow, Brian Bagnall has just posted about the Amiga Ranger prototype that has been found by Dale Luck!

Photo below:



https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1462758959/commodore-the-amiga-years-book/posts/1294091

For those that don't know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Ranger_Chipset
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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2015, 01:33:33 AM »
Wow, that is great news.
I wonder if this will lead anywhere as far as hardware is concerned.
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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2015, 05:53:06 AM »
Cool find, but I wouldn't exactly expect it to do much in the terms of wondrous hardware discoveries.  It is, after all - simply a prototype system from almost 20 years ago that came in between OCS and ECS, and wasn't a terribly huge step up to begin with, IMO.

In terms of a working history of the Amiga, it's a big find, though.
 

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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2015, 10:44:22 AM »
Quote from: Duce;792450
Cool find, but I wouldn't exactly expect it to do much in the terms of wondrous hardware discoveries.  It is, after all - simply a prototype system from almost 20 years ago that came in between OCS and ECS, and wasn't a terribly huge step up to begin with, IMO.

In terms of a working history of the Amiga, it's a big find, though.


Well it was a bit more than an inbetween of OCS and ECS, it was basically "Amiga 2" as designed by Jay Miner and the original Amiga team.

But, not sure what state this prototype is in.
 

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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 02:16:49 AM »
I took this picture at Dale's house.  We will be reshooting a lot of these artifacts and some hopefully will see their way into Brian's fine work.

Firstly this was pulled out of Dale's vast vaults for the 30th anniversary event in Mountain View, CA on 25th and 26th July (amiga30.com).  Luca Severini should also get thanks for cleaning up these artifacts and Bill Borsari for putting the past year of effort in to make the event happen! If you come to the event you will get to see this up close and personal.  A LOT of effort has gone into this event and is going to have LOTs of things possibly never seen before.  There is also going to be the largest gathering of original Amiga employees since the 80's all available to ask new and unusual questions to....I am personally so excited as this has been 30 years in the making.

I spoke to Dale about the Ranger and the idea there was a new chipset is bogus.  This was a new mechanical design (case) and the ability to have multiple expansion cards (zorro cards).  The image Brian posted is of a case mockup that was for thermal testing of the mechanical design.  It would be great if we could get the wikipedia article on this subject corrected (there was no "Ranger Chipset".....well the Zorro autoconfig logic doesnt really count.

For now let me leave you with more images of the ranger, some crisp images of Agnus and a couple of the developer units.  Enjoy and spread the word for the 30th Anniversary, its a great excuse to visit the San Francisco Bay Area and meet some of our geek idols.



http://chrisxyz.smugmug.com/Amiga-Ranger-what-should-of/

http://chrisxyz.smugmug.com/Amiga-1k-prototype/

http://chrisxyz.smugmug.com/Amiga-pre-A1K-developer-units

http://chrisxyz.smugmug.com/Agnus-chip/

p.s. These images are placed into the Creative Commons but please give attribution if citing them.

Enjoy
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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2015, 02:50:28 AM »
Quote from: Duce;792450
Cool find, but I wouldn't exactly expect it to do much in the terms of wondrous hardware discoveries.  It is, after all - simply a prototype system from almost 20 years ago that came in between OCS and ECS, and wasn't a terribly huge step up to begin with, IMO.

In terms of a working history of the Amiga, it's a big find, though.


I think it would have been an improvement over even AGA because of the dual-ported VRAM.

I don't think you would see the same slowdowns that AGA experiences running 7 or 8 BPP in multiscan mode.

ECS was the real disappointment.
 

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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2015, 02:53:30 AM »
Quote from: chrisxyz;792481
For now let me leave you with more images of the ranger, some crisp images of Agnus and a couple of the developer units.  Enjoy and spread the word for the 30th Anniversary, its a great excuse to visit the San Francisco Bay Area and meet some of our geek idols.

Sweet, love the pics, and looking forward to seeing it in person.  Got my plane tickets already, sh*t, still need to make hotel reservations and a rental car, though!  :(

PS - Image R10 - what is that??
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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2015, 03:19:55 AM »
R10 is the mockup of the front of the Ranger.  Its a solid piece of plastic that was milled out.  The two oblongs at the bottom are a bit of a mystery to me.  At first I thought they were 3 1/2 inch drive mockups but I think the larger slot at the top of the face plate is for the drives....well at least if I try and line it up to the thermal mockup.  Thats assuming the face plate and the thermal mockup were the same design and revision.  Hopefully one of the old timers will tell us the scoop at the show....if not we can always trust the internet to make a nice story up for us.
 

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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2015, 03:53:30 AM »
Hey!  The Commodore/AMIGA logo font on that prototype case with the green power button is really different and cool!  As is the very early pre-Commodore stylized "A" logo key near the enter key on the developer system.  That stylized A key uses the same font as the earliest Amiga logo (from when Amiga was still its own company making joysticks to fund R&D).

Neat to see the "what could have been" graphic design elements of these early Amigas.
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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2015, 05:07:55 AM »
Cool, thanks for the pics!
 

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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2015, 07:38:43 AM »
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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2015, 09:50:59 AM »
Wish I could be there for the 30th...

But that 1K prototype... nightmare or headache, I am glad it wasn't me trying to make all that hold together and make sense. You just have to admire all the work that went into it.
 

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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2015, 09:54:17 AM »
Genuinely fascinating stuff. Great pics!
 

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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2015, 04:56:38 PM »
very fascinating into what they was working on.

Wounder if it is possible to get these people on board to recreate the amiga in a fpga project. ? (to create a modern amiga)
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Re: Amiga Ranger Prototype Found!
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2015, 07:16:12 AM »
@Chrisxyz
I read at eab.abime.net that Toni WinUAE author could include Ranger in WinUAE if he can have roms dumps and high res pictures of the motherboard but you better ask him directly. Is all this possible ?
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