Author Topic: Buddha & TrueIDE in A2000 problem... (Read 754 times)

giZmo350 · « **on:** March 06, 2015, 05:08:46 PM »

So, finally received my TrueIDE from AmigaKit. I installed the Buddha card with the TrueIDE w/2 AmigaKit supplied CF cards (correctly w/power to the TrueIDE) but the A2000 Rev 6 won't even attempt to boot the floppy and I can't get a ROM 3.1 boot screen either. If I remove both the CF cards I can get a ROM screen or I can get the floppy to boot the AmigaKit OS Install disk but, of course, I immediately get a message that there is no ADH0 attached. With the CF cards inserted I get no ROM boot screen so, of course, nothing is ever gonna happen... any thoughts from others with this setup? Any help is greatly appreciated - at least to just get past this initial problem. THX! BTW, I've researched every TrueIDE/Buddha post on the web extensively - not much out there....

Oldsmobile_Mike · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2015, 05:58:11 PM »

I don't have either a Buddha or a TrueIDE, but just to make sure, everything works fine with this setup until you put a CF card in the TrueIDE? Are the boards shown as working correctly in early startup?

gary2000 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2015, 07:18:43 PM »

I went to a 4GB CF. It worked fine w/Buddha IDE & rev 6.
Test w/ only 1 card?

giZmo350 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2015, 08:26:02 PM »

@Mike - Expansion Board Diag in early startup shows - WORKING. The Buddha is the only expansion board in the system.

@gary2000 - both AmigaKit CF cards are 4GB - formatted FFS. I tried with just one CF card - same thing.

Another observation:

If I supply power to the TrueIDE from the A2000's floppy drive connector it "acts" like it's not getting power to the TrueIDE (please insert volume ADH0 in any drive) because I get the same message when I disconnect power from the TrueIDE.

Same as when I remove the CF cards.

I can get floppy to boot and ROM boot screen.

I measured the +5 and +12 volts correctly with a DVM on the floppy connector - floppy drive works perfect from same power connector.

However:

If I use a floppy extender cable from one of the A2000's molex plugs (also measures correctly and the same voltages as the floppy connector with a DVM) I get a totally different message from the AmigaKit OS Install disk if I use a 4GB CF card supplied by AmigaKit from a different CF HDD adapter that is formatted SFS.

Software Failure - ADH0 program failed (error #80000003) wait for disk activity.

If I use either of the 2 FFS formatted CF cards that AmigaKit supplied with the TrueIDE the machine won't boot and I can't even get a ROM boot screen.

I'm lost.....

Yes, I read all the documentation...

Thought: Do I need to reinstall my SCSI controller and HDD & install the Buddha software to the SCSI HDD to get an OS on the CF card(s)?

danbeaver · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2015, 08:57:59 PM »

And you are sure there is no problem with the TrueIDE working and you have tested the Buddha with a plain HDD.

Oldsmobile_Mike · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2015, 08:58:58 PM »

Probably not the ideal way of doing it, but if I were you I'd reinstall your SCSI controller (like you said) and try to boot off that, and configure the Buddha & TrueIDE to work as slave devices, first. You know, just see if you're able to get them working at all?

You could always install an OS to them that way, also, then just bump up the boot priority once they're working so they boot first instead of your SCSI controller.

giZmo350 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2015, 09:03:51 PM »

Quote from: danbeaver;785904

And you are sure there is no problem with the TrueIDE working and you have tested the Buddha with a plain HDD.

Hey Dan.... well, I can get the TrueIDE to respond in a different manner with a different CF card supplied by AmigaKit from a different CF adapter (never used) formatted SFS. So, I can't tell if there's a TrueIDE problem or not. Would you say that the Buddha is working if early startup diags say WORKING? Hmmm. I didn't try a laptop HDD... could be next course of action.

@Mike - That could be a possible next course of action too....

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

OK, so scratch any PSU weirdness from the floppy power connector - the +12V wire was all gonked on the A2000's last connector - FIXED!

Next: gonna hook up an old laptop drive to the Buddha that has an old OS3.9 install on it.

giZmo350 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2015, 09:34:11 PM »

OK, connected laptop HDD that has old OS3.9 on it... here's the result...

Now I get this message:
Software Failure - Program failed (error #80000004)
Wait for disk activity to finish.
SUSPEND - REBOOT

If I boot from AmigaKit's OS Install disk from floppy, with the laptop HDD connected, I get:

Please insert volume ADH0 in any drive.

Switch back to the TrueID...
with FFS CF card - nothing happens at all
with SFS CF card - Software Failure - ADH0 - Program failed (error #80000003)

danbeaver · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2015, 10:31:51 PM »

I have that combination of (1 year old) Buddha Phoenix Flash and new TrueIDE, but I tested it in a basic A4000. I could not get either of my 2 the TrueIDE to work straight off the A4000's own (working) IDE, but it worked well on the Buddha; this tells me that the TrueIDE is not a panacea for IDE to CF cards -- it has "issues." The A4000's IDE port is old, basic and slow.

My Buddha(s) work, but to report in the early start menu that they are working only means that a query of the ROM and electronics returns a "working" response. I have had other cards that reported this when they were otherwise non-functional.

Ergo, if you can't get the Buddha to work with a known working IDE drive, then you might have a problem there.

giZmo350 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2015, 11:26:28 PM »

Thanks for all the replies guys...

I think I'm getting somewhere...

I connected ANOTHER old laptop HDD that had OS3.1 on it and it booted! (funny how we have these just laying around! LOL)
It has IDE-Fix97 on it!
Is that the key here with the Buddha & TrueIDE?

gary2000 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2015, 12:16:40 AM »

I am using a cheap CF adapter from EBay along with the Buddha. Could it be the CF cards? Try to pull the SCSI.

giZmo350 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2015, 12:28:06 AM »

Quote from: gary2000;785917

I am using a cheap CF adapter from EBay along with the Buddha. Could it be the CF cards? Try to pull the SCSI.

Hi again gary2000....

The only expansion I have in the A2000 right now is the Buddha... this is like a big catch 22! If I have a CF card inserted in the TrueIDE when I boot up I get "Software Failure - ADH0 program failed (error #80000003) wait for disk activity". If I boot up off the AmigaKit OS Install floppy, with no CF card in the TrueIDE, I get "Please insert volume ADH0 in any drive". The supplied AmigaKit CF cards are formatted as ADH0 which should be recognized right away but are not. The only thing I can see different is the fact that I have IDEFix97 installed on the laptop drive that booted right off the Buddha. So, I know that the Buddha at least works correctly... I guess... UGH!

gary2000 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2015, 01:16:35 AM »

So, trueide or CF is the problem?

danbeaver · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2015, 02:10:11 AM »

The AmigaKit CF cards (with preinstalled software) are pretty much designed to be problem-free with the amiga, unless during shipping the heads got knocked out of alignment...

IDEFix when implemented, mostly corrects for the lack of ATAPI commands on the IDE, so I would guess you have to get enough of a boot to run it if it is truly needed; however an error on one "install" vs another can be due to missing libraries loaded at startup.

Starting with no Startup-Sequence would let you run both the IDEFix and SetPatch (the latter of which can cause big issues with booting).

I believe that "The Answer is Out There!"

giZmo350 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2015, 02:32:01 AM »

Quote from: danbeaver;785926

The AmigaKit CF cards (with preinstalled software) are pretty much designed to be problem-free with the amiga, unless during shipping the heads got knocked out of alignment...

Those dang CF heads!

Quote from: danbeaver;785926

IDEFix when implemented, mostly corrects for the lack of ATAPI commands on the IDE, so I would guess you have to get enough of a boot to run it if it is truly needed;

Xactly! I just need to get far enough in a bootup to take control of this... work of art!

Quote from: danbeaver;785926

...however an error on one "install" vs another can be due to missing libraries loaded at startup.

"Install"... I'm finding that "versions" are hazardous...

Quote from: danbeaver;785926

Starting with no Startup-Sequence would let you run both the IDEFix and SetPatch (the latter of which can cause big issues with booting).

I could never figure out what to do after a "No Startup Sequence" boot...

Quote from: danbeaver;785926

I believe that "The Answer is Out There!"

You are correct..... I'm gonna start another post now for further fun!

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