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Chinon FZ-506 Rev A retrieve from an external Amiga Box
« on: April 28, 2014, 09:49:18 AM »
Hello,

I bought some weeks ago a Kryoflux and was using it without problem to retrieve 5,25 880KB Amiga format disks.
I used a Mitsumi M90BCL-3 but after +/- 800 disks the Side 1 head refuse to rip data and it appears as "Format Unknown".
I opened the floppy to identify which head it was and it is the fixed one (the bottom one). Try to clean it up, ... but nothing worked.

Now I open an external 5,25 floppy box for Amiga 500 but it was a modified one with some custom soldering. The model is a Chinon FZ-506 Rev A.
I found the technical sheet and set the jumpers as it was on the doc, I remove all the home-made soldering and now I have a drive with 40 tracks instead of 80 when I use Kryoflux. The track 0.0 and 0.1 is green, then the others are greys (graphic interface) and when I scan it -> 40 tracks only.

There are 13 jumpers and here is the configuration I put: o = Open, - = Close

1 : -
2 : o
3 : -
4 : o
5 : o
6 : -
7 : o
8 : o
9 : o
10 : -
11 : o
12 : o
13 : -

Before there was an interrupter on the external box saying 40 or 80 tracks. it connected a wire between ground and the circuit somewhere. I took pictures of the drive with all the home made wire (Amiga modifications).

Is there a way to restore it as an original IBM PC Drive, maybe some bad jumper settings or a soldering to do ? Is there someone who can post picture of the controller card of the drive and jumpers settings ?

Here are links to drive with hardware modification from the Amiga external box:
http://DjErase.no-ip.info/ATROUVER/525drive/IMG_1035.JPG
http://DjErase.no-ip.info/ATROUVER/525drive/IMG_1036.JPG


Original Jumpers settings (for Amiga)
http://DjErase.no-ip.info/ATROUVER/525drive/IMG_1038.JPG


Chinon PDF
http://DjErase.no-ip.info/ATROUVER/525drive/Chinon_FZ506.pdf

Thanks a lot
 

Offline danbeaver

Re: Chinon FZ-506 Rev A retrieve from an external Amiga Box
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 02:11:27 PM »
Good luck on finding the answer.  

But have you considered just buying a used, working 80-track 5.25 FDD?  The Kryoflux is only reading the magnetic fields recorded on the media and only cares that the drive can step between tracks; it then interprets that set of numbers into data representing the disk type.  The disk can be MFM or GCR as it doesn't matter until you tell the type of disk format it read.  It doesn't care about the number of sectors as to whether it is 11 or 22, as they are just changes in the magnetic "flux."

I could be wrong now.
 

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Re: Chinon FZ-506 Rev A retrieve from an external Amiga Box
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 03:22:23 PM »
Correct, except that the reader software may need to readjust between 300 and 360 rpm.
 

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Re: Chinon FZ-506 Rev A retrieve from an external Amiga Box
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2014, 06:11:42 PM »
Hello,


That's the problem: find a 5,25 in good condition and non modified.
I have 4 external 5,25 modified that are working fine on my Amiga.
I have 1 5,25 PC unmodded and apparently it's a problem of alignment of the heads. I successfully recovered from tracks 0 to 48 (manual adjust) but after there are read errors (the 5,25 disk on Amiga drive pass all the tracks with X-COPY without error).

So if someone have a clue
 

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Re: Chinon FZ-506 Rev A retrieve from an external Amiga Box
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2014, 06:14:50 PM »
Quote from: freqmax;763459
Correct, except that the reader software may need to readjust between 300 and 360 rpm.


Of course it would have to be be able to do the math.