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WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« on: January 24, 2013, 12:55:45 AM »
Okay, I'm drawing slowly close to getting my A500 with Bodega Bay restored, but I've run into a bit of a problem.  My 3.0 Install disk crapped out!

So, I'm looking for either a replacement/copy of the 3.0 Install disk or if someone has a full set of 3.1 they'd be willing to sell...

I'm located in Amarillo, TX.

Thanks,

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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 05:27:08 AM »
Are you looking for originals?  Or copies?
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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 05:47:01 AM »
I bought my sealed NOS WB3.1 disks from ebay for what I thought was a reasonable price.
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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2013, 06:58:12 AM »
3.0 won't run on an A500 anyway... you need OS 3.1 with the appropriate Kickstart.

Edit; just noticed the other thread.. yes, it's true you can run 3.0 but it's a lot of hassle as you'll need to remove anything that used the 020. Much better off with the 3.1 that's designed to run on it.
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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 07:58:37 AM »
Don't remember removing anything from it, just set it up under WinUAE and copied it to a CF Card and booted the A500 plus :-)
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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 11:35:23 PM »
Quote from: danbeaver;723760
Are you looking for originals?  Or copies?


Honestly, I don't care as long as I can get it loaded up on my machine!

I figure if anybody's going to squawk about copyright on this, they really need to find a life!

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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 12:13:28 AM »
Surprisingly enough, I found an auction of fleabay for 3.1 AND ROM.  So will wait to see how this turns out.

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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 02:06:32 AM »
Lots of misinformation!  WB 3.0 will run just fine on ANY Amiga with a Kickstart 3.1 ROM.  It just won't have the small updates and added features!  With a floppy based A500, you won't even notice the enhancements!

It's like saying you cannot run/install Windows XP SP1 on a PC that came preloaded with Windows XP SP3 because it has a newer BIOS on it!
« Last Edit: January 25, 2013, 02:09:07 AM by TjLaZer »
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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 06:15:31 AM »
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Honestly, I don't care as long as I can get it loaded up on my machine!

I figure if anybody's going to squawk about copyright on this, they really need to find a life!

Curtis


I asked because some people are collectors and refuse to use copies. If you have an EPROM programmer to burn a 16-bit 27C400 (at least 120ns or faster), then you can find the ROM image online as well as ADF images of the 6 disks. PM sent.
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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 12:00:00 PM »
Quote from: spirantho;723765
Edit; just noticed the other thread.. yes, it's true you can run 3.0 but it's a lot of hassle as you'll need to remove anything that used the 020. Much better off with the 3.1 that's designed to run on it.

I ran a copy of an A1200 rom on an A500 with a 68000 without any issues, I might not have used all of the libraries but it was good enough for what I needed it for.
 
But 3.1 is definitely better
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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 12:25:25 PM »
@curtis - As I said before, If you do not win the auction ill copy the WB disk you want and mail them to you  free of charge :)
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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 12:55:07 PM »
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@curtis - As I said before, If you do not win the auction ill copy the WB disk you want and mail them to you free of charge :)

FWIW most of the 3.1 roms on ebay are pirate. The labels give it away.
 
The upgrades were only available in a boxed set which included manuals.
 
Spare parts for the A1200/A4000/A4000T turned up because Amiga Technologies needed them for manufacturing.
But those will be silk screened mask roms.
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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2013, 12:10:49 AM »
Actually, I was wondering about that.

Wonder why ebay still allows them?  Oh wait, murky waters on who owns what parts of the Amiga corporate corpse...

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Quote from: psxphill;723957
FWIW most of the 3.1 roms on ebay are pirate. The labels give it away.
 
The upgrades were only available in a boxed set which included manuals.
 
Spare parts for the A1200/A4000/A4000T turned up because Amiga Technologies needed them for manufacturing.
But those will be silk screened mask roms.
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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2013, 02:22:25 AM »
Quote from: curtis;724032
Actually, I was wondering about that.
 
Wonder why ebay still allows them? Oh wait, murky waters on who owns what parts of the Amiga corporate corpse...

I don't know if ebay requires Amiga to complain, but they allow it because nobody has told them that the auctions are a problem.
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Re: WTB: OS 3.0 or 3.1
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2013, 05:53:45 PM »
Reasons I can think:

1.  Its a VERY small market and nobody cares to push it, if you want to be an a$$ complain.
2.  It is hard to find real 3.1 ROMs!  Especially today, you might find some on Vesalia or AmigaKit, but stock is usually low.
3.  Who owns what?  Nobody seems to know anyways.  
4.  But to get completely technical, yes it is pirating.  But it is 2013.  Lets just be real here.  Nobody cares for 25+ year old computer equipment.

I can see it now, can you imagine people bitching and complaining over 1986 PC BIOS copying/selling on vintage 8088 and 286 PC forums.... lol  NOT

Only Amigans make that possible!  ;)

EDIT:  YEP AmigaKit does not sell A600/500/2000 Kickstart 3.1 ROMs

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=40_99
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