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[S0nic]

i need help, i just buy a500 , a600 and C64 will have ultimate modul II so with that modul will go on lcd


so now please help me , what is best solution for me , to buy 1 lcd and put all 3 computers on it , or buy 1084 monitor and one LCD monitor i don't know what is best solution for me, what monitors give best picture with my computers ... so how you on forum resolve this problem before with your amiga's and c64 , thanks

[Drummerboy]

If you want the Classic experience, the 1084 Monitors are the best for me. But if you want use any VGA monitor, maybe you can obtain any External TV Tunner, with RCA Audio & Video in.

[S0nic]

Originally Posted by Drummerboy

If you want the Classic experience, the 1084 Monitors are the best for me. But if you want use any VGA monitor, maybe you can obtain any External TV Tunner, with RCA Audio & Video in.

understand but people tell me that picture will be bad on any model of LCD monitor/TV ? what is you experience here is there any model of LCD monitor/tv who have good picture?

[S0nic]

can someone who have amiga 500 and 600 or c64 and have that on 4:3 LCD monitor/tv and have good quality picture to send me model of monitor, please

[Matt_H]

A later-model 1084S is probably your best bet for picture quality and resolution compatibility. There's only one RGB input, though, so you'll need to swap the cable between your 500 and 600 by hand (make sure everything's turned off first). The C64 can plug in directly.

If you're going the LCD route and if you're not in North America, something with SCART and S-Video inputs gives you the best chance for success. The C64's Y/C video output is S-Video in a different connector shape. You can probably find a cheap adapter or build one yourself. For the Amiga, a simple Amiga-to-SCART video cable will do. Make sure the screen supports a 50Hz refresh rate, otherwise PAL video won't work. I'd guess that if the monitor supports SCART, though, it'll support 50Hz.

[jm4n]

Hi S0nic :-)

In my experience, an LCD attached to an Amiga is always like a lottery ticket.

Usually it will not work, because the PAL signal that comes out the custom chipset of any Amiga (50Hz) will not sync any modern LCD (usually around 60Hz). The reason is that historically computers are now attached to a monitor instead of a TV, thus it is cheaper for manufactures to limit the usable range of the monitors to the now standard VGA frequency.

The LCD monitor you want to use must have a proper RGB connection, which is more and more rare these days.

That usually means that you will not be able to play games but only be able to visualize Workbench (provided you have a 23pin adapter-to-VGA and you set a ScreenMode such as PAL, NTSC, DBLPAL, DBLNTSC). Although you are in Europe, if you set NTSC in Workbench you won't break anything, it will simply set a higher frequency ScreenMode that possibly will let you see something on screen (albeit you won't see the lower part of the screen due to the different resolution: PAL is 256 pixels height, NTSC is 200 pixels).

There are notable exceptions: my Dell U2211H, for example, is able to sync anything from 50Hz. That means that I can display output from the custom Amiga chipset, PAL, NTSC and also higher RTG resolutions (through a standard VGA cable).

If you want to use a modern monitor with your Amigas, the other option is buying a Scandoubler/Flickerfixer device: they basically "realign" the video signal. The downside is that these devices are expensive.

A native Commodore monitor is surely the safe way to go and it's the best choice if you like the "retrocomputer" feeling.

Hope this helps.

[zipper]

I haven't checked all, but the BenQs I have had started @ 50 Hz, the older even @ 44 Hz!

[S0nic]

Originally Posted by zipper

I haven't checked all, but the BenQs I have had started @ 50 Hz, the older even @ 44 Hz!

so do you try connect amiga's or c64 on that old BenQ's ?

[S0nic]

Originally Posted by jm4n

If you want to use a modern monitor with your Amigas, the other option is buying a Scandoubler/Flickerfixer device: they basically "realign" the video signal. The downside is that these devices are expensive.

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http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=821


this is that fixer?

[S0nic]

Originally Posted by Matt_H

A later-model 1084S is probably your best bet for picture quality and resolution compatibility. There's only one RGB input, though, so you'll need to swap the cable between your 500 and 600 by hand (make sure everything's turned off first). The C64 can plug in directly.

If you're going the LCD route and if you're not in North America, something with SCART and S-Video inputs gives you the best chance for success. The C64's Y/C video output is S-Video in a different connector shape. You can probably find a cheap adapter or build one yourself. For the Amiga, a simple Amiga-to-SCART video cable will do. Make sure the screen supports a 50Hz refresh rate, otherwise PAL video won't work. I'd guess that if the monitor supports SCART, though, it'll support 50Hz.

thanks for helping me i have info that this models can work with amigas
Samsung Syncmaster 171MP, 741mp, 150MP, 151MP

[zipper]

Originally Posted by S0nic

so do you try connect amiga's or c64 on that old BenQ's ?

They probably start on 24 kHz, so need a tweaked monitor driver or doublescan mode.

[S0nic]

Originally Posted by zipper

They probably start on 24 kHz, so need a tweaked monitor driver or doublescan mode.

this one is not good?

http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors...-32243069.html

[zipper]

Horizontal / vertical frequencies 31-83 (KHz) / 50 - 76 (Hz)
So not good without a scandoubler.

[jm4n]

Originally Posted by S0nic

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=821

this is that fixer?

Yes, that's the device I was talking about.

Those from Indivision are the most wanted because they're newly produced and they do both the scandoubler and the flickfixer jobs at once, but they only exist for A1200 and A4000.

I know there's a choice of external SD/FF devices too, but their output quality does not compare well to those of Indivision. While external devices are cheaper, internal devices work better because are physically plugged to the video chip.

In case of A500/A600 there is no internal possibility to plug such a device so the choice is much obliged.

[wa9yoz]

Greetings! If you live in Chicagoland area, come to my home in Lake Station, In., I have an 1084s monitor for $30.00 bucks picked up.