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Offline CritAnimeTopic starter

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Much need for 3.1?
« on: December 03, 2012, 08:01:56 AM »
I am looking at my Miggy 1200 and wondering if I really need to upgrade to 3.1 roms. What real world advantages will I actually get over using the roms I already have in the system?

I am only going to be gaming and learning to program. So is it actually a necessity to own them. I may buy an accelerator at some point too so I can play some of the Doom clones.
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2012, 08:07:55 AM »
Just upgrade and STFU! :D

OK more seriously if you're using 3.0 roms there's no real need for you to upgrade to 3.1 if you play games/program. You can also use WB 3.1 with 3.0 roms. But you'll lose bragging rights without 3.1 roms ;)
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2012, 08:13:48 AM »
I was always hounded by a friend that you needed 3.1 roms to use workbench 3.1. I knew this wasn't the case but I just had to check lol. To be honest it's only because I am installing classic workbench to a CF to eventually go into my system when I get a indi aga that I queried it.
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2012, 09:00:31 AM »
I use softkicking on all my Amigas that are running os3.x so for me there's no need at all for 3.1 roms.
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2012, 09:55:38 AM »
Perhaps when programming there might be some libraries that has changed with different versions? different headers or API.
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2012, 10:10:31 AM »
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Perhaps when programming there might be some libraries that has changed with different versions? different headers or API.


Kickstart 3.1 only adds one new function to graphics.library and new nonvolatile.library used by very few CD32 games. Other than that nothing has really changed from programmer POV.
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2012, 12:24:46 PM »
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I am looking at my Miggy 1200 and wondering if I really need to upgrade to 3.1 roms. What real world advantages will I actually get over using the roms I already have in the system?

I am only going to be gaming and learning to program. So is it actually a necessity to own them. I may buy an accelerator at some point too so I can play some of the Doom clones.


So to summarise for you, there's absolutely no need to buy 3.1 Roms as you can softkick 3.1 if you'd like 3.1.
When I got my Apollo1240 with FastATA controller, it didn't work at all with 3.0 Roms...it hung on a black screen at startup - so I had no choice but to upgrade to 3.1. Otherwise, there wouldn't have been any need to upgrade for me.
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2012, 12:57:28 PM »
Quote from: CritAnime;717269
I am looking at my Miggy 1200 and wondering if I really need to upgrade to 3.1 roms. What real world advantages will I actually get over using the roms I already have in the system?

I am only going to be gaming and learning to program. So is it actually a necessity to own them. I may buy an accelerator at some point too so I can play some of the Doom clones.


If you use some accelerators (like my microbiotics 1230) the extra memory will be automatically added instead of having to add a command to the startup seq. that will reboot the 1200. Not a big deal, but it helped my boot times.
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2012, 03:22:37 PM »
I only upgraded my roms because of a dodgy pin on my old 3.0's but I didn't need 3.1 in all honesty.
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2012, 03:30:21 PM »
Gawd there are a lot of cheap skates around here!
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2012, 03:46:09 PM »
3.1 also "upgrades" the pcmcia library to protect from possible memory overlap issues.
End result, with RAM cards (and a very few accelerators) with memory over 4M, PCMCIA is disabled.

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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2012, 05:26:26 PM »
Craziness, 3.1 ROM's are so last week. 3.9 ROMs or nothing is the way to go :-)
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2012, 06:08:04 PM »
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Craziness, 3.1 ROM's are so last week. 3.9 ROMs or nothing is the way to go :-)

"3.9 ROMs" is a wide expression with all those different modules and their combinations :razz:
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Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2012, 06:11:28 PM »
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"3.9 ROMs" is a wide expression with all those different modules and their combinations :razz:


LOL True, but it does sound cooler ;-)
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Offline paul1981

Re: Much need for 3.1?
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2012, 06:38:58 PM »
For a Commodore Amiga purist, it would make sense to stick to 3.0 Roms as 3.1 I believe was never released by Commodore.
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