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Old 09-30-2012, 03:03 PM   #1
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Default CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

Hi i was thinking putting this in my Amiga 4000. i have a couple of them for my Amiga 600 and Amiga 1200. Can i put them directly in the 4000 or do i need a cable or something to get it to work? I have seen them who sells them that there are the 1200 version and 4000 version Compact flash drive.
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Default Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

It should connect to your A4000 internal IDE connector in the same way it connects to your A1200. I use one on my A4000, but I have it connected to Zorro IDE card and I've disabled the motherboard IDE connector.
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Old 09-30-2012, 03:13 PM   #3
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Default Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

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It should connect to your A4000 internal IDE connector in the same way it connects to your A1200. I use one on my A4000, but I have it connected to Zorro IDE card and I've disabled the motherboard IDE connector.
Okay many thanks i will try it then i was just wondering about does who sell them, says you must choose either the 4000 version or 1200 version
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Default Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

Check this out.

Amiga 4000 Desktop CompactFlash Modification
http://alan2.me/a4000flash/
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Okay many thanks i will try it then i was just wondering about does who sell them, says you must choose either the 4000 version or 1200 version
LoadWB has already posted on a SCSI version if you have a CPU card with a SCSI controller. If you want to attach one to your existing IDE controller and you don't fancy tracking down one that works and then installing your OS onto it then check out AmigaKit:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=883

They'll supply the adapter, a card and pre-format it for you.
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Default Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

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LoadWB has already posted on a SCSI version if you have a CPU card with a SCSI controller. If you want to attach one to your existing IDE controller and you don't fancy tracking down one that works and then installing your OS onto it then check out AmigaKit:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=883

They'll supply the adapter, a card and pre-format it for you.
Many thanks and a very fair price at AmigaKit i must say
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Default Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

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Check this out.

Amiga 4000 Desktop CompactFlash Modification
http://alan2.me/a4000flash/
Thanks mate
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Default Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

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LoadWB has already posted on a SCSI version
Actually that is IDE. None the less, AmigaKit does have pre-made setups for you. That guide was done years ago when people were just experimenting with CF cards in "classic" systems.
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:00 PM   #9
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Default Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

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Actually that is IDE. None the less, AmigaKit does have pre-made setups for you. That guide was done years ago when people were just experimenting with CF cards in "classic" systems.
Okay but it was nice to see how it was done. My Amiga 4000 is the only Amiga i have, i have not taken apart, so cool to see some inside pic
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:20 PM   #10
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Okay but it was nice to see how it was done. My Amiga 4000 is the only Amiga i have, i have not taken apart, so cool to see some inside pic
Glad it was informative. Now that SSDs are coming down in price and I can get working IDE->SATA adapters, I've considered going to SSD. However, to take full advantage of such a setup the standard on-board IDE would have to be upgraded using the PIO2 update or an IDEFix,

I found a good SCSI->SATA adapter for around $150. While that adds a hefty price tag to a hobby project, using an SSD with an accelerator's SCSI interface would be the better performance option versus the on-board IDE.
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Default Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

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Hi i was thinking putting this in my Amiga 4000. i have a couple of them for my Amiga 600 and Amiga 1200. Can i put them directly in the 4000 or do i need a cable or something to get it to work? I have seen them who sells them that there are the 1200 version and 4000 version Compact flash drive.
Amigakit have one specifically for the 4000:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=883

It has the large CD-Rom style molex connector and a 40pin IDE connector.
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Default Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

Hi i have now tried to get my CF cards to work on my Amiga 4000. but i can not get it to work at all, there is only black screen when i try. But when i put my old seagate hard disk back in it works fine. i have bought a CF STARTER KIT for AMIGA 600/1200/4000/CD32 ATARI FALCON and tried that but i did not help.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:26 AM   #13
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Default Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

Hi guys do you know what a 40pin IDE to CF adapter with external power connector at the bottom looks like? I been told i need that for connect it to my 4000
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Default Re: CF hard drive in Amiga 4000

This one replaces a harddrive, i.e. you need an IDE cable and it mounts somewhere internally: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_.../merkmale.html

This one mounts directly on the IDE controller (don't know if it fits into an A4000): http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_.../merkmale.html

This one is like the first one (needs a cable) but mounts into a free expansion slot so that you can change the CF card from the outside: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_.../merkmale.html

All of them have a power connector similar to that of a floppy drive. You might need an adapter like this one: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_726_.../merkmale.html
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This one replaces a harddrive, i.e. you need an IDE cable and it mounts somewhere internally: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_.../merkmale.html

This one mounts directly on the IDE controller (don't know if it fits into an A4000): http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_.../merkmale.html

This one is like the first one (needs a cable) but mounts into a free expansion slot so that you can change the CF card from the outside: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_276_.../merkmale.html

All of them have a power connector similar to that of a floppy drive. You might need an adapter like this one: http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_726_.../merkmale.html
Hi many thanks i have the first one you put out. were do i get the power from the Amiga. from the motherboard
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