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Old 08-15-2012, 11:18 AM   #1
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Default Workbench 3.0 on amiga?

Hi do you know if i can put Workbench 3.0 in my Amiga 2000? or is it just for aga amigas. and if i can, do i have to change anything
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:36 AM   #2
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Default Re: Workbench 3.0 on amiga?

Workbench 3.x will run on any Amiga.
(Even a modified A1000)
3.0 and 3.1 will run fine on a 2000..
I haven't used 3.5/3.9, and they should run, but I'm not sure if they might be sluggish or not (wanting more CPU/RAM depending on your 2000 setup). I've heard people say both...

But there's no AGA requirement for 3.x.

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p.s. This implies you have upgraded upgraded your Kickstart ROM also..
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:38 AM   #3
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Default Re: Workbench 3.0 on amiga?

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Hi do you know if i can put Workbench 3.0 in my Amiga 2000? or is it just for aga amigas. and if i can, do i have to change anything
You WILL need a 3.0 or 3.1 Kickstart ROM chip though. (Unless you softkick Kickstart 3.0 or 3.1).

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Old 08-15-2012, 11:39 AM   #4
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Default Re: Workbench 3.0 on amiga?

The A2000 can run 3.1 without any problem but you need kickstart 3.x.

edit: dang paul1981 was faster then me ^^
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:39 AM   #5
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Default Re: Workbench 3.0 on amiga?

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Workbench 3.x will run on any Amiga.
(Even a modified A1000)
3.0 and 3.1 will run fine on a 2000..
I haven't used 3.5/3.9, and they should run, but I'm not sure if they might be sluggish or not (wanting more CPU/RAM depending on your 2000 setup). I've heard people say both...

But there's no AGA requirement for 3.x.

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Many thanks for your answer :-) then i dont need to change kickstart roms?
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:40 AM   #6
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Default Re: Workbench 3.0 on amiga?

Technically, you can't run 3.0 on an A2000 since 3.0 ROMs were never made available. But you can do 3.1

3.5 and 3.9 require an 020 accelerator and some Fast RAM.
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:44 AM   #7
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Many thanks for your answer :-) then i dont need to change kickstart roms?
I was adding my p.s. as everyone else was posting about the kickstart. Yeah, you need a kickstart ROM. ;-)

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(Kual, learn something new every day.. I didn't know there wasn't a 3.0 2000 ROM. ) ;-)
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:06 PM   #8
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Default Re: Workbench 3.0 on amiga?

Workbench 3.1 requires at least 2 MB of Fast Ram to perform properly.
I used to run it with 4 MB of Fast Ram and a 1 MB of Chip Ram on my Enhanced A1000 w Rejuvinator board and KS 3.1 Rom.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:17 PM   #9
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Workbench 3.1 requires at least 2 MB of Fast Ram to perform properly. .
I hadn't heard that before and I haven't been able to find any "requirements" listings online.
I only ever used it on my 1200..

What's your definition of "properly?"
From what I can tell, 3.1 appears to be a pretty minor change from 3.0...

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Default Re: Workbench 3.0 on amiga?

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Workbench 3.1 requires at least 2 MB of Fast Ram to perform properly.
I used to run it with 4 MB of Fast Ram and a 1 MB of Chip Ram on my Enhanced A1000 w Rejuvinator board and KS 3.1 Rom.
Using ClassicWB lite and not using the extra stuff and picking wb 1.3 theme plus using 4 color mode and it will run OK on 1MB ECS machines.
Edit: Ive tried it myself so I know it works fine.
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:12 PM   #11
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Default Re: Workbench 3.0 on amiga?

I run 3.1, 3.5, and 3.9 on my A2000. I have and 030 accelerator, 8mb of fast ram, and 3.1 ROM. It has ECS. I don't know about a standard, unaccelerated 2000. Try it and see.
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:59 PM   #12
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I run 3.1, 3.5, and 3.9 on my A2000. I have and 030 accelerator, 8mb of fast ram, and 3.1 ROM. It has ECS. I don't know about a standard, unaccelerated 2000. Try it and see.
No sense trying. It will NOT work! 3.5 & 3.9 require at least an '020 CPU.
I have an A2000 with an '030 that I run 3.5 on. 3.9 runs to slow, and hogs way to much memory. This is a great setup for the A2000/2000HD
As other's have stated, there was no 3.0 KS ever made for the A2000, only 3.1, but that works out fine.
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No sense trying. It will NOT work! 3.5 & 3.9 require at least an '020 CPU.
Only a fraction of 3.5 and 3.9 really requires 68020, all really important updates since 3.1 runs just fine on 68000 as well. I know this since I put together OS 3.9 for my minimig that only has a 68000.
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Many thanks for your answer :-) then i dont need to change kickstart roms?
If you have enough ram then you can use mkick to soft load a kickstart 3.1 image. It's not going to be legal, but it is possible.

Back in the day, I ran kickstart 2.05 and 3.0 on my a500 using a blizzard turbo board that allowed loading images from disk. With no real problems.

I switched to mkick when I got a hard drive that didn't work with the blizzard board. I bought a 3.1 upgrade when they became available.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:30 AM   #15
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I hadn't heard that before and I haven't been able to find any "requirements" listings online.

What's your definition of "properly?"


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I've tried WB3.1 with 1 meg...

it ran out of ram opening a window/folder?

you might get away with 1 meg if you just want to use it as a clock?
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