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Old 07-04-2012, 09:39 AM   #16
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Right now there also is a chance to buy a original packed A1200 Magic Pack (still sealed) as Petro somehow akquired a LOT of those from some forgotten storage or something like this. He takes 150 Euros + 19% VAT + Shipping per piece, which i consider a very fair price for original sealed A1200 magic packs O.
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Where can I purchase one of these please? Is he shipping these now? Do you have a link? THX!
Hi mate,

theres a thread in the forum about it... basically you have to use facebook and add Petro as friend to get in queue for them. He is still waiting for them to get shipped to his place, which should happen in about 6 or so weeks, and will then start sending them out. Thats the information i got, i can't guarantuee that its all correct.

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Old 07-04-2012, 10:08 AM   #17
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I have to say that I've been entirely pleased with my 1200 since I got it. PCMCIA networking's incredibly cheap and quite simple to set up, built-in support for a hard drive or CF adapter is very convenient, and having a 16MHz 68020 stock is a big improvement over a 7MHz 68000. Accelerators tend to be quite a bit cheaper and easier to get, too, and even a basic one makes a significant further improvement.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:09 AM   #18
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I have to say that I've been entirely pleased with my 1200 since I got it. PCMCIA networking's incredibly cheap and quite simple to set up, built-in support for a hard drive or CF adapter is very convenient, and having a 16MHz 68020 stock is a big improvement over a 7MHz 68000. Accelerators tend to be quite a bit cheaper and easier to get, too, and even a basic one makes a significant further improvement.
Ditto! I have used emulation every which way you can think of on every OS imaginable. It sucks! (Don't even get me stareted with emu on my SAM460! - but haven't spent much time on it either) Just get an A1200! It's the best! I am hoping to get another Magic Pak so bad! I'm at home only one day a week and I keep my A1200 at the shop with no time for Amiga love. Just want another WHDLOAD A1200 for home & Scala is much fun!

Just get an A1200, Accelerator, Scan Doubler, PCMCIA & CF Card and you're in business! Yea, not cheap for all new parts but you can get deals on ebay.

Oh, but FPGA machine might be OK too!
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:21 AM   #19
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If you want to play games and run a BBS, then get a memory expansion (mostly for being able to play games from HD with WHDLoad), a CF card for transferring files and an HD (and perhaps a PCMCIA network card if you don't want to use dial-up).

Did I leave anything out?
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:34 PM   #20
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Agreed...



Hmmm - here I cannot agree (supposing that you are referring to the AmigaOne X1000 with "X1000").

If there is something interesting about a piece of hardware then there is something interesting about it - no matter if it is a Commodore Amiga, CUSA Amiga, AT Amiga, Eyetech Amiga, ACube Amiga, A-Eon Amiga, Pegasos, Playstation or what do I know.

In case of CUSA products I have to agree, as I cannot see anything interesting there - others might see this different.

But in case of the A1 X1k I can see a lot of things that I'm interested in. Be it the dual cores, the 64 bit architecture or exploring the possibilities of XENA / XORRO...

Anyhow - I have registered my interest in an AmigaOne X1000 at x1000@leamancomputing.com ...
I think thats the X1000 i had seen. Personally i really hoped that it would be the new Amiga we were all waiting for.
And yes, the Cusa computers looks more or less like standard pc's with the name on. I don't think they run Amiga OS and rather Linux.
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:37 PM   #21
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Welcome back!
I think for the things you listed an A 1200 - preferably with a 68030 accelerator card - is enough.

B.T.W. - with "AmiX" you mean the Amiga Unix - a full port of AT&T Unix System V Release 4 for the Amiga computer family?
Isn't an Amiga 3000 UX required for that?
No AmiX was an BBS program. It was really great. At the time i wasn't thinking about Unix.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiexpress
I think i wrote the short wrong.
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:43 PM   #22
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Hi mate!

The A1200 is definitly a very good choice. You should be able to get a really nice "entry" set for about 300€ (~400$ i'd assume), with an A1200 in near-mint condition, a 68030 acceleration board and 4MB extra RAM, as well as some (original) AGA/ECS games and a PCMCIA kit for file transfer. Oh, and a CF-Card + Adapter for the IDE port; 4GB is plenty, tho i've been fooling around with 16GB disks lately ...

If you want to hook the whole thing up to a modern TFT/LED/Monitor instead of a TV or an original Amiga capable monitor, a Indivision Mk2 appears to be *the* thing - i yet have to acquire one of those, tho.

Right now there also is a chance to buy a original packed A1200 Magic Pack (still sealed) as Petro somehow akquired a LOT of those from some forgotten storage or something like this. He takes 150 Euros + 19% VAT + Shipping per piece, which i consider a very fair price for original sealed A1200 magic packs O.o

So, i'd say get started with a magic pack and buy the other stuff and put it in (accelerator, CF-Disk, PCMCIA Disk Transfer kit); Or get one of the complete packs from ebay that usually come with everthing.

When you want to expand, you can always buy a better acceleration card that supports a lot more RAM, an indivision MK2, an IDEFix and a CDROM Drive, ...

Good luck,
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Working A1200's in good condition with the necessary stuff like mouse, PSU, ... for under 50 €/$? Guess there is a huge price difference between where you live and middle europe Granted, you can have a lucky strike on some flea-market sites (or real flea markets) because some people dont know what stuff is worth, tho.
That was another question that came up. Where to buy. I checked Ebay and it looks pretty empty. I remember there was a store in the UK that sold Amigas. Maybe thats what you meant.
Btw. did the A1200 did not had the flickerfixer build in? I remember on my A500 i had to buy a flixerfixer so i would be able to hook it up to a monitor. What joy that was.
I hold the A500 dear, but i think to have a more broad library choice the A1200 should be better. It was the last technological leap from C= after all.
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:47 PM   #23
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Default Re: A1200 good for re-entry?

Another option for trying out a Next-Gen Amiga besides OS4 and MorphOS is AROS. There are 3 great distributions of it, Icaros Desktop, Broadway and AspireOS. Downloads of the distribution are free, and it can be installed on most generic PC's.They can't run old Amiga software directly, but can through emulation via Janus UAE.

I know CommodoreUSA has got a bit of bad press here, but you could also check out the new CommodoreOS. It is a free download from their site. I downloaded and installed it on a spare machine recently, and it actually looks very nice. It is Linux-based, but has a nice Next-Gen Amiga feel. Also, it can run the large library of Linux software.

However, like a lot of the folks here, I still have a soft spot in my heart for the classic machines which I've still managed to hold onto over the years, including my first, the A1000.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:56 PM   #24
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One thing to consider too is a display. The 1200 hooks up to a TV, but if you have NTSC tv you are rather limited as most PAL software won't work properly (or at all).

There's various dell monitors that will work, or you can get scan doublers (internal and external)

In PAL land, it's much easier. Get a scart adapter and away you go.
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:57 PM   #25
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I have seen that there will be a release of the MK board from Individual Computers available soon. Its about 120 pounds.
http://www.jschoenfeld.com/news/news130_e.htm
I think i will order that as well with the machine. The only thing i can not find is a processor board. But thats not the important right now.

One other thing i am interested in is how i can hook up the amiga to telnet, like for a bbs system.
And of course, where to get some of the game treasures. Ebay seems not a great source, at least i don't see titles i am looking for.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:26 PM   #26
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So you are from UK? It possible to connect A1200 to LCD-TV through SCART and get good flicker free picture. IF you buy second hand LCD-TV it is possible to get correct aspect ratio very very cheap price. 99,99% for new LCD monitors/tvs are with wrong aspect ratio.

http://www.amigakit.com/ is good start, you can get indivision from there and ofcourse correctly wired scar cable, if you choose use LCD-TV
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:31 PM   #27
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For accelerators, I'd post a want thread on AmiBay and maybe the Vintage Computer Forum. On eBay they're almost always twice the price or more that you'd find them from a forum member.
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:46 PM   #28
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What ever you do, don't settle for WinUAE. It's spiritually damaging.

For the note, I love my 1200's!
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For accelerators, I'd post a want thread on AmiBay and maybe the Vintage Computer Forum. On eBay they're almost always twice the price or more that you'd find them from a forum member.
Good tip. I wasn't aware of that.
Sadly, Amigakit has nothing in stock. I wrote them an email. Oh and no, i am from the US. Since i don't connect it to a TV it shouldn't matter what tv norm it has, or does it?
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What ever you do, don't settle for WinUAE. It's spiritually damaging.

For the note, I love my 1200's!
Well, i think an Emulator can be ok if you don't want to deal with the actual hardware or you can not buy it.
I never liked all these emulators. As a matter of fact, i tried a little while ago to play wasteland on Vice and its ok but i guarantee that it is much more fun to play it on a C64.
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