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Old 07-01-2012, 02:53 PM   #1
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Default C=OS Beta 9 uses AROS Kickstart

http://anticusa.wordpress.com/2012/0...ros-kickstart/

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Added C64 ROMs and AROS ROMs for Amiga emulation (The ROMs are not 100% compatibile but are close). The C64 and AMIGA emulation are now launched full screen. If clicking on a C64 game does not work you may need to tweak your emulator settings to enable either full screen or windowed playback.
Another point well taken: they will just abuse someone elses work and never countribute even by bounty. What they would do if there was no Debian, MINT and AROS? Make a Windows free software under Commodore Windows with blessings from M$?

and I do remember they promised partnership with Amiga Forever
http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/fo...-the-community

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We have included a number of licensed game ROMs through a partnership with Cloanto, including the C64 and Amiga Forever collection. MCE users can also install any of the 1,000's of programs that run on Linux.
Can AROS team do something about this? Is KS free for commercial use by company that makes money on machines with C=OS?

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Old 07-01-2012, 03:07 PM   #2
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Default Re: C=OS Beta 9 uses AROS Kickstart

Thats just PURE balls after the way they treated AROS developers.

I would think whoever the author of the roms is could modify the license to prevent them from using it. If I were him, I'd be sending them a cease and desist letter right now....
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:15 PM   #3
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Default Re: C=OS Beta 9 uses AROS Kickstart

C=OS if free to download and use, I see no issue there.
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:39 PM   #4
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Thats just PURE balls after the way they treated AROS developers.

I would think whoever the author of the roms is could modify the license to prevent them from using it. If I were him, I'd be sending them a cease and desist letter right now....

Actually not only are they allowed to use them they have Jason's blessing.
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Thats just PURE balls after the way they treated AROS developers.

I would think whoever the author of the roms is could modify the license to prevent them from using it. If I were him, I'd be sending them a cease and desist letter right now....
For those who say InI forum is useless

How they treated AROS
http://anticusa.wordpress.com/2012/0...ast-cusa-lies/
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:40 PM   #6
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Actually not only are they allowed to use them they have Jason's blessing.
OK, keep allowing them to abuse your work and not donate 1$

Now they emulate Amiga Classic thanks to AROS (but without it mentioned in the OS)
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OK, keep allowing them to abuse your work and not donate 1$

Now they emulate Amiga Classic thanks to AROS (but without it mentioned in the OS)
As long as they follow the license there is no issue. They cannot iirc use the cd-handler commercially nor can anyone else.
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:58 PM   #8
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As long as they follow the license there is no issue. They cannot iirc use the cd-handler commercially nor can anyone else.
Its interesting concept to use open source software but pretend that it is new real OS that you support just for your products, but offer for everyone (without any support that make it non working on laps and AMD machines) just because you have to.

If I understand their Scheme of resellers, they intend to somehow sell it to end users adding it to the price, so it is open source free and payable? SUSE does it, but in much more positive way.

In my eyes, AROS community should restrict the use of it, and Amiga Forever should protect itself from COS ripp off option.

Both are ripp offs, just because you don`t want to invest. Everything is done by someone else, and you just pick the money pretending to be offering something new with the machines that you doubleprice.

Intresting exploit of Linux, not only Amiga and CBM. Its not illegal, but one must be fool to pay for e.g. Mint 13 and apps he can download by himself on half priced same hardware.
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In my eyes, AROS community should restrict the use of it

Guess it's a good thing it's not your decision. And considering you quoted from Leo's announcement I'm pretty sure it was mentioned they were using AROS.
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Old 07-01-2012, 04:21 PM   #10
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Guess it's a good thing it's not your decision. And considering you quoted from Leo's announcement I'm pretty sure it was mentioned they were using AROS.
It just sais AROS Kickstart, yes, and that it is not fully compatibile.
But surely the emulation box will not say "Thanks to AROS" or "download AROS"

But I somehow missed Leo donated at Power2People 2 step bounties and do remember he promised support to AROS development at AROS Exec.

So yes, its good for C=USA its not up to me to decide it. Question is, is it good for AROS?

Also, dont forget what Barron sad about AROS, and now they jump to their own mouth,
just to save less then 20$ per computer for complete AF and full emulation ablities.
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Default Re: C=OS Beta 9 uses AROS Kickstart

Just because the license agreement allows them to do it doesn't mean its a good move on their part. After all the lies and attacks made on aros now to go use parts of aros is pretty ridiculous, and shows how shallow and self serving a "company" like that is.

Remember, their ceo said they had ZERO interest in AROS. Oh ****... Unless we can use the roms. haha.

This "company" amuses me because they do like the absolute least amount of actual work on something possible. Amazing.

And the fact that they once promised to heavily financially support aros, then say "we're not running a charity for supporting aros here." just priceless.

You would think just from a pr perspective they would donate 10 or 20k to AROS just to make peace. That should be easy for a company who's advertising budget is 30 million dollars. If their budget for advertising is 30 million, I would think they can afford a 10 or 20k gift to AROS development for using these roms... Its the least they can do.

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Old 07-01-2012, 05:41 PM   #12
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Just because the license agreement allows them to do it doesn't mean its a good move on their part. After all the lies and attacks made on aros now to go use parts of aros is pretty ridiculous, and shows how shallow and self serving a "company" like that is. .

You would think just from a pr perspective they would donate 10 or 20k to AROS just to make peace. That should be easy for a company who's advertising budget is 30 million dollars. If their budget for advertising is 30 million, I would think they can afford a 10 or 20k gift to AROS development for using these roms... Its the least they can do.
Double dat. They admited there is no advert budget as such (and never made any real commercial, anyone?) in interview, but again, some serious donation would be at least "not a charity" but a "serious bussiness". Kickstart costed about $4000 I believe in bounties.
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As long as they follow the license there is no issue.
There might not be a legal issue, but that sure as hell doesn't make this admirable. For all their attempts to court the community, they've yet to give anything back to any part of it, and for them to profit by the work of a group like the AROS team and not give any kind of support is just low, whether or not the exploited parties don't mind.
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Default Re: C=OS Beta 9 uses AROS Kickstart

Or, stipulating CUSA gave AROS the finger, it could also be a bit of vindication for the AROS team that CUSA needs them to make their product.
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:43 PM   #15
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Default Re: C=OS Beta 9 uses AROS Kickstart

Maybe a bounty could be started to pay off the author of the roms NOT to allow them to use the rom? hahaha.
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