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[partycentralpartygirl]

Originally Posted by Iggy

Perhaps you've got a point, the Genesi machine may be aimed at the third world. If so, its not aimed well. A laptop with an integrated display makes more sense. I can buy an Intel Atom based laptop for about what the Genesi system would cost when a basic monitor, keyboard, and mouse are incorporated. And, instead of running Linux, I can run Windows.

And, for us in the hobbyist market, leave it to Genesi to move from the A8 to the A9 as the market prepares to move from the A9 to the A15.

Genesi also sells the board inside a laptop. They charge $199 for the laptop, though I am sure they sell it in quantity to gov't's for cheaper. I highly doubt they sell more than a hundred units (if that) off their website every year.

As far as I know the i.MX 5 series boards are already in production and after a bit will be for sale on their site for retail customers to buy. Though perhaps not as I believe they only sell leftovers from production runs online. I may be wrong though.

I think they are more going for fair performance with low power consumption as there are many places on earth without a reliable power grid.

As for selling the units without a monitor vs with a monitor. What exactly do you think happened to all those CRT monitor's that North America threw away? The tubes are re-manufactured into new monitor's and TV's. Somewhere in a developing nation they are playing an All-In-One Nintendo 1001-in-one SuperJoy III on a 1084 monitor tube. Anyways there is likely not a large shortage of cheap CRT monitors for these cheap computers to be plugged into.

I am fascinated by low end electronics, which is why I must budget not to spend more than a couple of hundred dollars on dealextreme each month. Though sometimes I cannot resist the lure... and consequently my home looks like a Chinese swap meet at times. Luckily my children break the stuff pretty quickly so I can new and improved cheap junk to play with....

I'm just ranting now... and I have to work in the morning.
doh.

[tone007]

Low end electronics, GO: http://1saleaday.com/

Lowest price I've seen on a color tablet, I bet these sell out.

[Andre.Siegel]

Originally Posted by commodorejohn

Not what I'd call a better deal at all, and that's not even getting into the fact that the Pi team are making all the documentation they can available, while Genesi doesn't really have any interest in hobbyist hackers at all.

Genesi operates an online platform for technology enthusiasts and hobby as well as professional developers at http://www.powerdeveloper.org

The company has given away hundreds of development systems to hobby developers over the years and continues to support operating system distributions such as Crux, Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, openSuSE and Ubuntu.

Furthermore, Genesi has contributed several thousand (US) dollars to AROS-related Power2People bounties so far.

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by tone007

Low end electronics, GO: http://1saleaday.com/

Lowest price I've seen on a color tablet, I bet these sell out.

Still an ARM11, but the price is great.
Wish I had some spare change for one of these.
Thanks tone.

[partycentralpartygirl]

Originally Posted by Andre.Siegel

Genesi operates an online platform for technology enthusiasts and hobby as well as professional developers at http://www.powerdeveloper.org

The company has given away hundreds of development systems to hobby developers over the years and continues to support operating system distributions such as Crux, Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, openSuSE and Ubuntu.

Furthermore, Genesi has contributed several thousand (US) dollars to AROS-related Power2People bounties so far.

Was un-aware of this. Looks like Genesi is pretty awesome. I will be purchasing the new Efika MX when it goes on sale. Maybe now I will get 2.

[partycentralpartygirl]

Originally Posted by tone007

Low end electronics, GO: http://1saleaday.com/

Lowest price I've seen on a color tablet, I bet these sell out.

Thanks for this site, I will now be throwing money at my screen to get the cheap junk. :P

Maybe I need some helicopters too.

[tone007]

Originally Posted by partycentralpartygirl

Thanks for this site, I will now be throwing money at my screen to get the cheap junk. :P

Maybe I need some helicopters too.

Very Woot-ish, though I've been on Woot far longer I've made many more purchases on 1saleaday.

[Iggy]

Personally, I like some of the "cheap junk' I've bought over the years.
Thanks tone.

The EfikaMX could be interesting if upgraded to an A9, but for higher end ARM I'm still looking toward the A15.

[dammy]

Originally Posted by Andre.Siegel

Genesi operates an online platform for technology enthusiasts and hobby as well as professional developers at http://www.powerdeveloper.org

The company has given away hundreds of development systems to hobby developers over the years and continues to support operating system distributions such as Crux, Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, openSuSE and Ubuntu.

Furthermore, Genesi has contributed several thousand (US) dollars to AROS-related Power2People bounties so far.

Any one do the benchmarks for the EFIKA-MX? I would like to see the link between that and the SAMs' benchmarks.

[partycentralpartygirl]

Originally Posted by Iggy

Personally, I like some of the "cheap junk' I've bought over the years.
Thanks tone.

The EfikaMX could be interesting if upgraded to an A9, but for higher end ARM I'm still looking toward the A15.

Cheap junk is my favourite kind. If I find something "cheap" that works as advertised it makes me so happy.

[kedawa]

I like checking out the stuff on dealextreme, but I don't order much at all. Maybe if they still sold ninja weapons...

[phoenixkonsole]

Originally Posted by dammy

Any one do the benchmarks for the EFIKA-MX? I would like to see the link between that and the SAMs' benchmarks.

I am still using the old Ubuntu base system... well i got rid of some unneeded services. As soon AROS works on ARMhf (again genesis efforts: http://www.powerdeveloper.org/forums...ic.php?p=13609)
I will swith to debian ARMhf which gives roughly 40% better performance (in some theoretical tests up to 400%)

Support by Genesi is awesome, product quality is very high.
Linux support is nearly perfect.

So i could do benchmarks but they wouldn't show the reality since i am running a outdated core which isn't supporting NEON (like altivec), isn't ARMhf and isn't supporting the 3D chip.

New builds are supporting the HW better and so you will gain more Speed from CPU heavy task and a lot more speed by the supported 3D Hardware.

Here are two clips showing AROS on the efika MX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYbhvnpM5JY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJrqsVswSpA

I am curios... could you direct me too some SAM benchmarks? I could try it first on my (slow base) Linux setup on the Efika...

HTML5 and Flash is possible on it.

[phoenixkonsole]

Running on armel build of Broaway X... so the slowest possible yet : p

so if a armhf build can bring upto 40% more speed it is definetly faster than a SAM440 with 800Mhz...

see:
http://wap.amigaworld.net/modules/ne...order=0#663772

[takemehomegrandma]

Originally Posted by dammy

Any one do the benchmarks for the EFIKA-MX? I would like to see the link between that and the SAMs' benchmarks.

There are many ways you can benchmark things, and here is one:

http://www.morphzone.org/modules/new...er=0&start=164

Please note that Andreas "scaled" the Sam's results to 800MHz, meaning that their real numbers are much lower. Also, I am pretty certain that HW FPU wasn't used on the Efika MX...

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by takemehomegrandma

There are many ways you can benchmark things, and here is one:

http://www.morphzone.org/modules/new...er=0&start=164

Please note that Andreas "scaled" the Sam's results to 800MHz, meaning that their real numbers are much lower. Also, I am pretty certain that HW FPU wasn't used on the Efika MX...

Surprisingly good results.
The A9 should be significantly better.
Running AROS, eh?
Is there any chance we'll see a native/not hosted variant?

you guys almost have me convinced.

BTW - takemehome grandma, you're now quoting Andreas?!