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[Amiduffer]

All joking aside, it is annoying the hell out of me.

<rant>I'm trying to install WinXP Pro, and right from the start, the internet won't work and there's no audio! And this is from the same PC that I had installed Linux on which worked pretty much flawlessly right from the get go.

Shame Linux doesn't have a decent Pinnacle Studio equivalent. </rant>

[CritAnime]

Yeah Windows need everything spoon feeding to it before it can work. Once you get the basic drivers, such as sounf and video, it then has to do loads of updates and install stuff like DirectX. Last Windows install I did last 3 hours from initial format and setup to final set of major updates. And then another hour or so to get all the extra bollocks needed.

[odin]

Or you could use a Windows install medium which already contains the updates. When it comes to XP it's even more fun when it doesn't have the service packs on disc already. Question is why you wouldn't be using a newer install disc...and don't have the specific drivers needed available...

It really isn't any different from using a x year old Ubuntu install disc and then waiting ages for it to update during and after install and finding out your specific hardware is obscure and/or plain driverless (I'm looking at you crappy HP Mini netbook >:|. )

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Originally Posted by odin

Or you could use a Windows install medium which already contains the updates. When it comes to XP it's even more fun when it doesn't have the service packs on disc already. Question is why you wouldn't be using a newer install disc...and don't have the specific drivers needed available...

It really isn't any different from using a x year old Ubuntu install disc and then waiting ages for it to update during and after install and finding out your specific hardware is obscure and/or plain driverless (I'm looking at you crappy HP Mini netbook >:|. )

HP.... managed to make drivers of 300+ megabytes when 1-4 gb harddrives were common. And even today, they manage to make I5 computers crawl because of their useless pre-installed bloatware.

[odin]

HP is evil...at work we are 'blessed' with 5 HP multifunctional printers. The embedded software, management software and driver software all suck so hard...and we're supposed to administer the damn things. There's a bug in the firmware for which their support guys have visited us 2 times already and the call's been open for what, 3 months? It's a joke...

Then again all printers suck, though these HPs suck that one bit harder.

[CritAnime]

Oh that stupid HP diagnostic tool. Not only do I have to contend with Norton reinstalling it's self everytime my laptop boots but that stupid diagnostic starts and i can't seems to force it to stop.

[kedawa]

Using the latest install media and always doing clean installs on new name brand computers are no brainers.

[TheBilgeRat]

Originally Posted by Amiduffer

All joking aside, it is annoying the hell out of me.

<rant>I'm trying to install WinXP Pro, and right from the start, the internet won't work and there's no audio! And this is from the same PC that I had installed Linux on which worked pretty much flawlessly right from the get go.

Shame Linux doesn't have a decent Pinnacle Studio equivalent. </rant>

Well, its only 10+ years old, so...

Why would you move to XP which is at end of life from linux?

[Amiduffer]

Originally Posted by TheBilgeRat

Well, its only 10+ years old, so...

Why would you move to XP which is at end of life from linux?

Mostly economics. I'm broke as a joke.

For the purposes of having a working archiving system for these old VHS tapes, I bought Pinnacle Studio a couple of years ago which only works on Windows. At minimum, it'll work with WinXP, and luckily there was a loose original copy here in the office. After much agrivation, I got it to work, and now I have sound after downloading the drivers from Realtek and the wireless works. If not for that reason alone, I wouldn't touch the damn thing with a 100 foot pole.

I did enjoy having WinUAE.

[persia]

It really isn't a fair to compare a ten year old Windows distribution with a modern Linux distribution. None of today's hardware existed in 2002, why would you expect an ancient version of Windows to support it?

[darkage]

I would more say its not fair to compare windows 98/ME.. Too me XP is still mainstream sure its getting to EOL but of course there will be the masses that still use it..

For video capture drivers I found that it really doesn't matter if its Linux or Windows, it can a pain to actually get drivers and to actually have them working flawlessly on either platform.. It all depends on how popular the card is and the platforms it supports. Well for linux is more about supported chipsets..

[a1200]

Whilst not perfect, Windows 7 has a much better driver repository built in and the driver finder via the Internet seems much better.

[persia]

Best to say XP is still mainstream among folks who are fans of a twenty year old OS....