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Old 04-19-2012, 09:44 AM   #1
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Default Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!

Hi Amiga.org friends.

I have got a petition online to try and convince our friends Jens Schoenfeld from Individual Computers to release the rights on schematics and CPLD code of the Apollo boards. He is the legal owner of all this, but notoriously he doesn't want to release the datas nor offer any support for the boards.
It is just a shame to let an Apollo 1260 die because we are unable to reprogram a new Mach 131 for it.
With hundreds of requests through this petition, may be he will change his mind and save the future of Apollo boards.
Please sign it here before 5/31/2012: http://www.petitionduweb.com/Petitio...ity-11476.html
You are welcome even if you don't have (yet) an Apollo board.

Thanks in advance.


EDIT:
Here is the translation of the page you have after clicking on "SIGN":

Civilite *

Nom *
Prénom *
E-mail *

Date de naissance *
Adresse *
Code postal *
Ville *
Pays *
Profession :
"Civilité" : Choose Mr for Mister, Mlle for Miss, Mme for Mrs
"Nom": Name
"Prénom": First name
"Date de naissance": Birthdate with day before month as DD-MM-YYYY
"Adresse": Adress
"Code postal": zipcode
"Ville": City
"Pays": Country
"Profession": job (not required)

We french people make the effort to write in english in UK/US boards even if we are really bad at foreign languages, so, for once, please support the Amiga in french
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:57 AM   #2
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Unless he plans on reviving the Apollo 060, this makes no sense for him to do that.

Hope this petition pans out well.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:10 AM   #3
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Default Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!

That's pretty much the way Amiga hardware goes, take it to your grave. Damn annoying users!

At least we got the Haynie files. That's an awesome resource.

Fingers crossed.

P.S. - Where is the petition?
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:01 AM   #4
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Default Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!

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That's pretty much the way Amiga hardware goes, take it to your grave. Damn annoying users!

At least we got the Haynie files. That's an awesome resource.

Fingers crossed.

P.S. - Where is the petition?
Don't know why the link disappeared from the first post.

http://www.petitionduweb.com/Petitio...ity-11476.html
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:10 AM   #5
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Much easier to sign now
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:45 PM   #6
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I sent an email to JS (23/02/2011) about these Mach : I explain to him these .jed files can create a job for me (by upgrading many 040 Apollo to 060), but no answer...
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:31 AM   #7
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I have got a petition online to try and convince our friends Jens Schoenfeld from Individual Computers to release the rights on schematics and CPLD code of the Apollo boards. He is the legal owner of all this, but notoriously he doesn't want to release the datas nor offer any support for the boards.
Xani dont you think he had reasons for doing this? Not going to happen even if you got 30k sigs..
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:29 AM   #8
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I have edited the first post to include the translation of the signing page for people who can't read french.
Thanks.
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:11 AM   #9
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You should just make it a habit of writing website text in english, especially if you want foreigners to read it or even respond to it.
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:52 AM   #10
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You should just make it a habit of writing website text in english, especially if you want foreigners to read it or even respond to it.
The text of this petition is in english, half the website is in english. Only the filling form is in french.
Did you know that french was the international language from 16th century to the beginning of the 20th century? I guess most native english people have studied a bit of french at school, unless everyone has gone to the chinese lesson instead by now.
Anyway, i have translated the form in the first post.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:26 AM   #11
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It's a good thought, but no amount of signatures or petitions will get his attention, but money might; profit is his #1 priority.
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Spare me the history lesson, if you want your stuff to reach a broad audience, just use english.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:39 AM   #13
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The text of this petition is in english, half the website is in english. Only the filling form is in french.
Did you know that french was the international language from 16th century to the beginning of the 20th century? I guess most native english people have studied a bit of french at school, unless everyone has gone to the chinese lesson instead by now.
Anyway, i have translated the form in the first post.
I guess that would have been helpful if the survey had taken place in the 19th century.

Deng Xiaoping studied in France but decided that English was the international language his country should pursue.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:49 AM   #14
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I guess most native english people have studied a bit of french at school
Really?
Here in the U.S., unfortunately, multiple languages aren't very popular.
And while French is generally offered in schools, I would guess Spanish was much more popular a choice/option.
(Admittedly, I was in Southern California, so that might be distorted)

And, being a nerd, I didn't even do that.. I took Latin.

Anyway, as for this, good effort. Good luck.
I don't see Jens budging, no matter how many sigs tho...

Another option might be seeing if the MAME guys can get at the MACH chip. Apparently (I read in a post on Amibay) that they dig into some chips for their work, and I think someone said a MACH chip was on their list (I don't think it was the 131). If there is a cost element, perhaps chatting with them and a small campaign to raise some funds to help them might be more productive.

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Notoriously? Did you start with a friendly email? That tends to work rather well.
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