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Old 04-18-2012, 08:42 AM   #136
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Default Re: CommodoreUSA CEO Interview Answers

I could make a long post here...

Or I could just link to the text in my blog:http://aros-wandering.blogspot.pt/20...messed-up.html



I wouldn't jump on conclusions regarding the image above. There is no judgement passed here! Read the blog text...
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:51 AM   #137
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Someone explain to me how he could make anything more Amiga-like while using the Amiga name after the AOS legal fiasco?

It sounded to me like every time they even try to make it look or feel more Amiga-like, they risk losing the name and being sued by Hyperion.

If it would sell another 100 units to hard-core Amigans, you don't think he'd have slapped AROS on there too? Sure he would, but he can't.

Thanks to Hyperion and AI, what CUSA is doing is pretty much all that's legally possible without building a custom outdated PPC board, yet CUSA gets all the hate.

There is plenty of hate to go around here, but I think a lot of it is misdirected.
Barry has stated quite clearly he has no interest in using AROS or AmigaOS or anything like it as he wants to bring the brands Commodore and Amiga back to the mainstream - which we all know he can't do with those OSes as they just don't have the software base.

Hyperion is irrelevant here (except for being used as a scapegoat) - if there was no lawsuit, there is still 0% chance he'd use AROS in place of Linux, he basically says as much in his answers.
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:51 PM   #138
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Barry has stated quite clearly he has no interest in using AROS or AmigaOS or anything like it as he wants to bring the brands Commodore and Amiga back to the mainstream - which we all know he can't do with those OSes as they just don't have the software base.

Hyperion is irrelevant here (except for being used as a scapegoat) - if there was no lawsuit, there is still 0% chance he'd use AROS in place of Linux, he basically says as much in his answers.
He stated quite clear that he has a business to run, and that AROS isn't ready for prime time, he's he really to blame? The thing is, if you want to blame someone blame Hyperion for that ridiculous clause. I wonder if the reason OS4 is approaching world domination by the day is due to it, I wonder how they would be if it wasn't for it.
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:52 PM   #139
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All I see is an overpriced, underpowered X86 box running a slightly visually modified Linux Mint distro. Not impressed with the hardware or CUSA.
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:54 PM   #140
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I could make a long post here...

Or I could just link to the text in my blog:http://aros-wandering.blogspot.pt/20...messed-up.html



I wouldn't jump on conclusions regarding the image above. There is no judgement passed here! Read the blog text...

I'd put genesi in the same group as MorphOS and Hyperion. BB did alot to further MorphOS.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:00 PM   #141
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I stopped reading right after the 5th line of the 1st answer. BS.
LOL... I stopped maybe 2 or 3 answers farther down.
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:06 PM   #142
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I guess most of us agree it was a waste of his time given he has spent hours typing up what effectively is confirmation that C=USA Amiga will only ever be branded stock Wintel machines without Windows licence in the box.

I know for a fact if they had produced a replica case with [micro] ATX mountings of say the 1000,500,3000 or 1200 it might have held some interest. That was the only reason 64x sold at all.

VIC Slim and Amiga Mini will be a very rude awakening for C=USA.

However this is not the first time. Anybody remember the Commodore gaming PC line? And remember what happened to them.....
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:09 PM   #143
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However this is not the first time. Anybody remember the Commodore gaming PC line? And remember what happened to them.....
Oh yes. And they didn't even piss off Amiga users. Plus their prices were cheaper and included a Windows OS.
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:50 PM   #144
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Are you talking about those cases with custom paint jobs? They look really cool but have seen one in real life. Any good?
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if you think about it, if they were to produce their current computers with the same quality but at a more reasonable price, they could gain users and capital to become a bigger player in the computing world, if they did sell them for a more reasonable price they could get more people using them, and get more money and users to restablish their name among the younger generations, then eventually release a cusom OS like the Amiga OS as an alternative OS, people (already familiar with the computer by this time) could/would develop more software, and eventually it could have the potential to be a 3rd competitor in the Mac, Windows world.

But they wont, so that whole hypothetical above is pointless.
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if you think about it, if they were to produce their current computers with the same quality but at a more reasonable price, they could gain users and capital to become a bigger player in the computing world, if they did sell them for a more reasonable price they could get more people using them, and get more money and users to restablish their name among the younger generations, then eventually release a cusom OS like the Amiga OS as an alternative OS, people (already familiar with the computer by this time) could/would develop more software, and eventually it could have the potential to be a 3rd competitor in the Mac, Windows world.

But they wont, so that whole hypothetical above is pointless.
They'll also need to provide support without pushing that liability onto the resellers they hope to recruit.

I think Barry is in for a rude awakening when he discovers that there is a massive difference between running a furniture business and a computer business.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:45 PM   #147
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I can't wait for the New Commodore Colt!
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:29 PM   #148
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:24 PM   #149
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Even though it packs some pretty nice hardware, the price is REALLY high!! especially since most of the people who know about the Amiga computers probably have a computer that could run linux if they wanted to use it instead of Morph OS or AROS or AmigaOS4.x.

The least they could have done is set up the GUI to look semi similar to classic amiga with the close button on the left, and the other 2 buttons on the right, none of the current OSs (Windows, OSX) do that, it would set them apart.

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Old 04-18-2012, 11:41 PM   #150
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Geez I never though I would make it to the end of the thread... Definitely CUSA discussions are driving alot of site traffic..

I've just started reading the responses, but no offence this guy really reminds me of my first boss.

Small Business Operator thats optimistic about everything even when they are not tuned in with the people, thinking up how to capitalise on every single opportunity with minimal investment even if it doesn't make 100% sense, riding on the back on other peoples/companies reputations in the hope it will equal more sales! Sell sell sell!!

I bow my head in shame when I heard my first boss excitingly talk about Steve Ballmer chanting developers developers developers for that whole monkey dance TechEd scene, thinking that validates his next business direction (MS development) for his small business with limited resources. I definitely had alot of moments when that boss didn't listen to me and I kept on saying told you so after the fact.. definitely not tuned in with reality.
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