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Old 03-15-2012, 10:17 AM   #41
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Default Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video

So where is the video???

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Old 03-15-2012, 10:22 AM   #42
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Default Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video

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I thought Pyromania and Transition are one and same
Who is also "the pogrammer" of Alladin 4D. Serius case of split personallity.

So that's 3 persons in one.
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:33 AM   #43
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It quickly got to 10,000 views on this news item. So now we are not releasing the video until we reach 100,000 views.
Weather the video gets posted or not, what little creditability your company and you guys had, with me any way, left on this post. shame because I am thankful for your support in the Amiga community weather its simple just keeping this site online or the competitions you do now again and donations you made to Amiga bounties but this is just getting ridiculous now.
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:03 AM   #44
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Default Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video

I don't get all this hate for DiscreetFX. They've given out tons of free stuff over the years and they've been good hosts for the site. All this flack just because they couldn't get a video up on youtube by the time they thought they could? C'mon.
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:13 AM   #45
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I don't get all this hate for DiscreetFX. They've given out tons of free stuff over the years and they've been good hosts for the site. All this flack just because they couldn't get a video up on youtube by the time they thought they could? C'mon.
The fact he may have done very little good things doesn't give him (and I say "him", there's no such thing as a Company behind it, even though he likes to pretend the contrary) the right to disrespect the users/customers.

It's not like this was the first thing he did like this.

There has been *tons* of jokes like this one:

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Old 03-15-2012, 11:14 AM   #46
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I don't get all this hate for DiscreetFX. They've given out tons of free stuff over the years and they've been good hosts for the site. All this flack just because they couldn't get a video up on youtube by the time they thought they could? C'mon.
Trolling your own website is pretty low. Leave that to the professionals!
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:28 AM   #47
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Still no video? Wow. :'(
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:57 AM   #48
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Still no video? Wow. :'(
As I already mentioned, I'll finish uploading the video when I get home from work tonight.
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:29 PM   #49
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Who is also "the pogrammer" of Alladin 4D. Serius case of split personallity.

So that's 3 persons in one.
The problem with your theory is I don't know how to program in C so I can't be the programmer of Aladdin 4D, Deron is. I also know a thing or two about computers so can't be the other individual either. Three different people are in fact three different people but feel free to believe what you want.

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Old 03-15-2012, 01:52 PM   #50
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:05 PM   #51
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As I already mentioned, I'll finish uploading the video when I get home from work tonight.
Next time announce the video when it's uploaded.

Next time, announce an <insert your favorite os here> version when Devon has started working on it, and can estimate its release date.

If you can't, then just do not announce anything.

Is that too much too ask ?
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:09 PM   #52
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@Transition and Pyromania

All of this ridiculousness and criticism could have been avoided if you had simply uploaded the video first, and then posted a news article about it.

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Old 03-15-2012, 03:16 PM   #53
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Default Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video

yeah i really have a hard time with blender particle animation here, need to see at least a video of a package thats more crappy and inconsistent. start even to miss my copy of lightwave9 i left at home..
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:07 PM   #54
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Trolling your own website is pretty low. Leave that to the professionals!
no one here (ok maybe TMHTG) is more qualified to make that statement
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:46 PM   #55
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As I already mentioned, I'll finish uploading the video when I get home from work tonight.
It is about 20 minutes before 11pm on the West coast of the USA, so I guess Pyromania is working very late tonight, as it would be 2 to 3 hours later where I think he lives and works and he apparently still has not made it home after work to upload the video to this thread.

I was looking forward to seeing it in action.

Maybe he was just too tired when he got home, so I will wait patiently another day with hopes that Pyromania will have some spare time to upload the video here for all of us to see Aladdin6.0 beta running (finally).

So please, Pyromania, make some time tomorrow morning, or some time throughout your day, to upload the video you have promised us, so we can have a look at the "Work In Progress" on Aladdin6.0 beta.
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:15 AM   #56
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Oh look here it is, he just posted it up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX8m_fc-LX0
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:54 AM   #57
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So please, Pyromania, make some time tomorrow morning, or some time throughout your day, to upload the video you have promised us, so we can have a look at the "Work In Progress" on Aladdin6.0 beta.
Don't bother guys, it won't get uploaded. They already hate us, besides this thread
hasn't got 100 000 views yet. ;-)
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:19 AM   #58
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The problem with your theory is I don't know how to program in C so I can't be the programmer of Aladdin 4D, Deron is. I also know a thing or two about computers so can't be the other individual either. Three different people are in fact three different people but feel free to believe what you want.
A large part of the cause of this 'problem' is the way DiscreetFX chooses to present itself (as an entity).
There may or may not be more than one person involved.
You constantly refer to DiscreetFX 'labs' (which I presume is either your mom's basement, or a spare bedroom).
You constantly refer to 'upcoming' or 'in development' products yet show no sign of progress.

Hell you can't even upload a single video of a beta running *on a different platform*, let alone on AmigaOS. If you can't even put enough code together to create a window, or compile the program core without a GUI and show it outputting to a terminal, or even show the current compile errors list... what confidence can anyone have that you are actually working on it, let alone competent enough to have a chance of success. Let alone producing some useful software with enhancements and improvements.

Hell, the original was written *from scratch* in less time than you've been porting this version for which you have the source.

There's nothing wrong with creating a corporate persona which gives the impression of being larger/more polished than in reality. Every company does this. However, this only works if you have some professionalism to back it up.
It all tends to fall apart when you consistently have NO PRODUCTS TO SELL over a several year period. Where's your revenue stream? Do you sell that many copies of croutons/millenium/whatever?

Announcing Video Toaster/Flyer boards for sale as if it were a corporate announcement. Please, unless you have a stock of these (ie a wholesale amount for sale) use Ebay or the classified forums (like everyone else who has one or two for sale).

Constant announcements of Aladdin 4D 'in development' - not even a screenshot, not one line of code, no progress announcements, just constant 'we'll have to check with the guys down at the crimelab.' Please.

Then there's the whole farce with A.org site ownership.

And the constant mind-dribbles (Aladeen, this thread, random bollocks in various threads).

I mean, c'mon guys. Either act like a corporate entity (some professionalism, the occasional product, some signs of life), or act like interested individuals and be honest. You seem to have taken Amiga.Inc's behaviour as a template for your own.

I truly hope things change in this regard - you clearly have (financial) resources, you clearly have (vague) good intentions with regard to this platform. Use it wisely, behind the scenes if necessary (see Trevor Dickinsons' way of supporting development).
Please, stop trying to showboat when you have nothing to back it up whatsoever. And please stop subjecting us to this 'humour.' Given the history of failed developments for Amiga in the past, you really should know better.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:00 AM   #59
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Thanks for your feedback , it helps us improve our process.
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I couldn't have said it better than Boot_WB. He was spot on with his comments.

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There may or may not be more than one person involved.
You constantly refer to DiscreetFX 'labs' (which I presume is either your mom's basement, or a spare bedroom).
I always get a chuckle when they talk about "DiscreetFX Labs" too. I WANT DiscreetFX to succeed - I WANT there to be a new Aladdin4d (which I will pay for). But no need to put up a false front. No need to be embarassed that it's just one programmer working on Alladin4d from his house with a bag of Doritos beside the computer. We know the Amiga is now a small cottage industry. Deron Kazmaier (Pagestream) admits he works from his home (he has a blog about it). Jens Schoenfeld doesn't talk like he has a team of lab-coated technicians and a white room. Even Greg Gorby (original Alladin4d developer) talked about working from his home office by himself (when the Amiga market went bust). But we all still admire these guys because they have delivered.

Good Luck to DiscreetFX, and please don't take Boot_WB's message as a bashing - use it as constructive criticism. I wish you all the best!

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