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[B00tDisk]

Originally Posted by commodorejohn

This is true, but it's only anywhere even approaching convenient on a 386 in protected mode; 8086 is limited to 1MB total address space (and hence, on the PC, 640KB conventional memory,) and nobody even bothered with the 286's protected mode. You could get more with EMS, but that's nowhere near as convenient as an actual expansion of address space.

Now that I won't argue.

It floors me that a '386 can address up to 4gb of RAM (note: I don't think there was ever a chipset or OS of the day that could manage this, but it'd make a neat garage project now that they can be had for the price of postage )

[CritAnime]

A 4gb 386... That would be worth seeing lol.

[commodorejohn]

Heh, that would be something

[haywirepc]

Actually 386 and 486 boards are getting rarer lately, and people on ebay are selling them for ridiculous prices to robotics and electronics experimenters.

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by haywirepc

Actually 386 and 486 boards are getting rarer lately, and people on ebay are selling them for ridiculous prices to robotics and electronics experimenters.

Are there people dumb enough to be buying them, Steven?

And since, AFAIK, there are no chipsets that allow 386 or 486 processors to access modern RAM, a 4GB 386 or 486 combination is virtually impossible (as well as being pointless and extremely silly).

[commodorejohn]

Originally Posted by Iggy

And since, AFAIK, there are no chipsets that allow 386 or 486 processors to access modern RAM, a 4GB 386 or 486 combination is virtually impossible (as well as being pointless and extremely silly).

You say that like it makes it not awesome.

[CritAnime]

I can't help but imagine what my 66mhz 486 DX2 would have been like with 4 gb of ram lol. Would have been awesome. Not as awesome as my Amiga but still pretty awesome.

@iggy

I would buy another 486 pc so I could run some of the old DOS games. Plenty of games I wanted to get into but never actually bought. That si if they were reasonably priced.

[Middleman]

Originally Posted by Iggy

It won't happen for the same reason you won't see MorphOS on a PS3, it would have to run on a hacked console.
Hyperion and the MOS developers wouldn't want to run the risk of lawsuits from Sony.

==Well that won't be necessary...

There is another system that it can run on.....Sony's own Zego blade servers.
> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zego

The Zego was launched within the last year and is basically a PS3 system on a blade server used by Sony for its video editing broadcasting businesses (funny eh how this is SO Amiga?). The chip is like the Cell chip only fully enabled on the 8 cores (unlike PS3's which are disabled on one) so potentially it gives us 33% more performance than a regular PS3 setup. It runs on Yellow Dog (Linux).

The other card of course is the IBM PowerXCell 8i. This is a Cell-based PCI Express card that is basically a full computer on a card >
http://wrice.blogspot.com/2011/02/po...-card.html?m=1

Or you could try to use IBM's range of Cell Blade Server which I think is more reasonable and logical.... > http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/bladec...s22/index.html
Using the QS22 APIs and tools, apparently it can run both x86 and POWER code without much work > http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/640

The Cell is very powerful.....don't forget it can theoretically use up to 256GB of memory! And yeah it would have been nice to see how my 486DX 66 Overdrive faired with 4gig lol.

[B00tDisk]

Originally Posted by CritAnime

I can't help but imagine what my 66mhz 486 DX2 would have been like with 4 gb of ram lol. Would have been awesome. Not as awesome as my Amiga but still pretty awesome.

@iggy

I would buy another 486 pc so I could run some of the old DOS games. Plenty of games I wanted to get into but never actually bought. That si if they were reasonably priced.

DOSBox. Even has 3dfx support(-ish)

[CritAnime]

Seems like Leo is trying to reach out to the communities... Wonder why it hasn't turned up on here but oh well time for some linkies

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/...34729&forum=17

[slayer]

I still think many peoples stances these days are based on "hindsight"

I for one did not buy the Amiga because it was the best thing on the market at the time... it was just a coincidence

I've brought into the NG line of Amigas because I never stopped being an Amiga User and I want to continue using an evolving AmigaOS (I'm actually going to code for AmigaOS). The original Amiga was a vision and it was realised... the X1000 is a vision and it is realised too...

Leave the Amiga in peace; for a lot of you, it isn't the Amiga who is dead it's your involvement with her that is... adios and good luck just please please say good bye!

You'll thank me for it, eventually :-)

And I don't want to hear questions in the future about hows the X1000 cpu upgrade or hows that X2000 going... by then (say 2 years) you should be well, well on your way to recovering without talking about the Amiga anymore :-)

[Digiman]

I was going to buy one of the original AmigaONE machines way back in the past, at that time given PC price/performance it was worth a gamble.

[Digiman]

Originally Posted by slayer

I still think many peoples stances these days are based on "hindsight"

I for one did not buy the Amiga because it was the best thing on the market at the time... it was just a coincidence

I've brought into the NG line of Amigas because I never stopped being an Amiga User and I want to continue using an evolving AmigaOS (I'm actually going to code for AmigaOS). The original Amiga was a vision and it was realised... the X1000 is a vision and it is realised too...

Leave the Amiga in peace; for a lot of you, it isn't the Amiga who is dead it's your involvement with her that is... adios and good luck just please please say good bye!

You'll thank me for it, eventually :-)

And I don't want to hear questions in the future about hows the X1000 cpu upgrade or hows that X2000 going... by then (say 2 years) you should be well, well on your way to recovering without talking about the Amiga anymore :-)

Well the reason for this thread is there is no cost effective Amiga option in terms of price/performance. Amiga (from Commodore) was ALWAYS cost effective. Ipso facto Amiga is dead. Walker proto-type was rubbish and ESCOM just rebadged 1991 technology and tried to sell it for 1995 prices. And subsequent owners have done sweet FA.

What I feel about real Amiga computers has nothing to do with how I feel about OS4 compatible PPC machines touted as next gen Amiga. The incompetence and underwhelming ideas coming from Hyperion don't help but it is not their job to provide the cunning hardware required to achieve a 200-300% price/performance advantage over i7 PCs to underpin a new implementation of OS4.

(this is without resorting to sarcastic comments like "if there is no Paula IC on the motherboard it is not an Amiga" so we can keep the discussion in context)

[psxphill]

Originally Posted by slayer

I still think many peoples stances these days are based on "hindsight"

I for one did not buy the Amiga because it was the best thing on the market at the time... it was just a coincidence

I've brought into the NG line of Amigas because I never stopped being an Amiga User and I want to continue using an evolving AmigaOS

I think there are relatively few people that somehow randomly bought an Amiga back in the 80's and still want to use AmigaOS now. I'd love to know why you bought one if it wasn't because it was the best?

[commodorejohn]

Originally Posted by CritAnime

Seems like Leo is trying to reach out to the communities... Wonder why it hasn't turned up on here but oh well time for some linkies

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/...34729&forum=17

Now they try to extend the olive branch? That would've been a good thing to try...oh, two years ago?

I do love that the first response is Franko chiming in with an entirely appropriate and civil answer