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[jorkany]

Talking about Xena, Xorro, and SMP demonstrations on the X1000. Any video footage, pictures or write-ups on demonstrations of "The Power of X"? Did any scientific users take note?

[A1260]

what about getting the amigaos4.x finished first... after that i have no doubt we will see more of the x you talk about.

[jorkany]

None at all?

Wow, over a year and a half even I would have expected something, even if it was just a board plugged into the Xorro slot with blinking LEDs. I guess everyone is too busy chasing the new carrot to care.

[Piru]

Originally Posted by jorkany

None at all?

Wow, over a year and a half even I would have expected something, even if it was just a board plugged into the Xorro slot with blinking LEDs. I guess everyone is too busy chasing the new carrot to care.

You clearly haven't been taking your XMOS pills. Let me get you a fix here:
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforu...d=4914&forum=4

[jorkany]

Originally Posted by Piru

You clearly haven't been taking your XMOS pills. Let me get you a fix here:
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforu...d=4914&forum=4

Ah, the old carrot tied to a new stick! Now that's innovation!

[ajlwalker]

@Piru

You've already confirmed Morphos won't be on the X1000.

I understand details on the new OS4 netbook are scant, but in principle would you be in favour of producing Morphos port for it?

If it makes the answer any easier lets assume the netbook sells between 1000-2000 units rather than a couple of hundred.

[zylesea]

Originally Posted by ajlwalker

@Piru

You've already confirmed Morphos won't be on the X1000.

I understand details on the new OS4 netbook are scant, but in principle would you be in favour of producing Morphos port for it?

If it makes the answer any easier lets assume the netbook sells between 1000-2000 units rather than a couple of hundred.

If MorphOS team wanted to support a e300/400MHz netbook, they could have done so with the Limebook Z9.
But since Mac support was added virtually noboday gave a crap about an e300/400 any more. MorphOS will soon support a G4 1.67GHz laptop - what will an even more expensive e300/400 netbook offer as benefit?
Not sayig an e300/400 wouldn't make no sense at all (I still have a business proposal based ona chip with that core), but it is a thing of priorities. And putting the priority to a G4 1.67 GHz instead to a G2(e300)/400 seems clever and rational to me.

[Karlos]

I have to agree with zylsea; I can't really see MOS devs seeing any tangible value in supporting it as they already support hardware that enables users to get into it without having to spend too much.

It's a different story for OS4, where a lower cost device that allows people to use it for less outlay should make quite a difference.

[ajlwalker]

Originally Posted by zylesea

If MorphOS team wanted to support a e300/400MHz netbook, they could have done so with the Limebook Z9.
But since Mac support was added virtually noboday gave a crap about an e300/400 any more. MorphOS will soon support a G4 1.67GHz laptop - what will an even more expensive e300/400 netbook offer as benefit?
Not sayig an e300/400 wouldn't make no sense at all (I still have a business proposal based ona chip with that core), but it is a thing of priorities. And putting the priority to a G4 1.67 GHz instead to a G2(e300)/400 seems clever and rational to me.

Er, I didn't suggest they should prioritise this netbook (which we won't see for many months anyway) over their current projects.

[ajlwalker]

Originally Posted by Karlos

I have to agree with zylsea; I can't really see MOS devs seeing any tangible value in supporting it as they already support hardware that enables users to get into it without having to spend too much.

It's a different story for OS4, where a lower cost device that allows people to use it for less outlay should make quite a difference.

I of course see your point of view, however, I believe there is a market there to be exploited.

ie. There are many people (me included) who do not want to buy 2nd hand apple hardware just to try out Morphos. There are also many people who would like to have OS4 and Morphos run together on more than just the PegII.

If this netbook materialises, and I believe it will, I will 100% buy it. Doesn't mean I only want to run OS4 on it.

[eliyahu]

Originally Posted by jorkany

Talking about Xena, Xorro, and SMP demonstrations on the X1000. Any video footage, pictures or write-ups on demonstrations of "The Power of X"? Did any scientific users take note?

there wasn't any discussion of xena/xorro in the presentations, no. however a few of us talked with trevor and steve at the hyperion table about it. i also was able to review the documentation supplied the beta testers which gave me the mechanical spec i needed for xorro and the pin mappings of the connections between pins on the XMOS chip and the GPIO pins on the PA6T. we also discussed application ideas as well.

multi-core support in OS4 was mentioned, although there was no OS4.2 build to try. steve and trevor confirmed the 'first contact' edition shipping later this year will only support core0. OS4.2 should follow soon thereafter supporting the second core.

once RobertB and others are able to post video, you can review them for more ammo, er, info.

-- eliyahu

[actung_bab]

Originally Posted by ajlwalker

@Piru

You've already confirmed Morphos won't be on the X1000.

I understand details on the new OS4 netbook are scant, but in principle would you be in favour of producing Morphos port for it?

If it makes the answer any easier lets assume the netbook sells between 1000-2000 units rather than a couple of hundred.

Dont be silly they just want bitch and complain and have divsion like always
maybe they bring out Lp record with bonus remix hehe

[ajlwalker]

Looks like I am on ignore.

Does anyone else close to Morphos development know if this netbook could become a target platform?

Seems like a good opportunity to make Morphos even more efficient.

[Piru]

Originally Posted by ajlwalker

@Piru
...in principle would you be in favour of producing Morphos port for it?

No, I wouldn't. I think we have plenty of better targets to port for, and they're not 400MHz SIMDless systems with fixed tiny storage capacity. Also, the system doesn't have cache coherency, something which MorphOS requires.

[persia]

Given that it's a year and a half late and still doesn't support the second core, how long will it take to support a completely foreign non-floating point XMOS as something other than program it and allow it function remotely?