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CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« on: September 22, 2011, 05:17:06 PM »
If you thought a SAM system or X-1000 was expensive, well you would be wrong. CUSA's upcoming Amiga line will cost up to $25,000! Pictures or specs for these systems has not been released yet. More information via the link below.

http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/27-commodore-usa/8551-phone-call-with-barry?lang=en#8569
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 05:22:44 PM »
ahh, they even got forum, how cute!
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 05:41:13 PM »
Is this a joke? April is 6 moths away!
 

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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 05:57:32 PM »
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Is this a joke? April is 6 moths away!


No joke!
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 06:02:07 PM »
Just for sake of comparison, this is what 25 grand will buy you elsewhere

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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2011, 06:10:48 PM »
Ah, but remember, according to dammy if you haven't picked out the exact same components then any value/cost comparison is totally invalid! After all, I worked up a PC that was better than the original top-of-the-line C64x for less than the cost of the original base-line model, but since I didn't use the same parts it doesn't count at all!
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2011, 06:12:39 PM »
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Ah, but remember, according to dammy if you haven't picked out the exact same components then any value/cost comparison is totally invalid! After all, I worked up a PC that was better than the original top-of-the-line C64x for less than the cost of the original base-line model, but since I didn't use the same parts it doesn't count at all!


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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 07:10:41 PM »
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 07:30:26 PM »
I'm sorry, this is ridiculous.  If SGI was still in business and doing what they did so well* I could see $20k for a desktop workstation-class PC.  Putting together the most expensive commodity parts and saying "That's worth it" is just crazy.

For what its worth, I just "built" a PC at newegg with these specs:

OCZ Colossus 2 Series OCZSSD3-2CLS960G 3.5" 960GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - $2,419.99

CORSAIR Vengeance 24GB (6 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $164.99

Thermaltake TP-1500M 1500W ATX 12V v2.3 & EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply    $369.99

SMK-LINK VP6342 Black RemotePoint Wireless Navigator Suite $219.99

RAZER Black 7 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Optical/Laser Mamba 2012 Elite Ergonomic Wireless Gaming Mouse    $119.99

PLEXTOR Black Blu-ray Disc Burner SATA PX-B940SA-11 $159.99

Intel Core i7-990X Extreme Edition Gulftown 3.46GHz LGA 1366 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80613I7990X    $999.99

ViewSonic CD3225 Black 32" Large Format Display $669.99

SILVERSTONE Black Aluminum Crown Series CW03B-MT ATX Media Center / HTPC
   $699.99

ASUS Rampage III Black Edition LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard $559.99

PNY VCQ6000-PB Quadro 6000 6GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card $3,999.99

I deliberately chose some "outrageous" stuff, like a case with a 10" LCD monitor built in, a 32" "monitor" (really more of a TV that does 1900x1600), a $4000 "workstation" video card, and so on.  Fine, it's not a "slim-line slot-load" blu-ray burner, but so what?  Add $150 to the price to "make it fair", and so what?  That's an insane workstation class system for well under $20k with features like the 2nd display on the case and whatnot.  What, other than more hard drives could C=USA possibly offer?  What?  A "custom OS"?  What Linux Mint distro will it come with then?

Let's face it, unless Barry is planning on opening a factory or at the very least having truly custom hardware built by big vendors for tight integration so you effectively wind up with a modern, SGI class machine and not a big gaming rig, I cannot fathom any workstation rig being worth $20k.

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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 08:02:34 PM »
Quote from: Transition;660627
If you thought a SAM system or X-1000 was expensive, well you would be wrong. CUSA's upcoming Amiga line will cost up to $25,000! Pictures or specs for these systems has not been released yet. More information via the link below.

http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/27-commodore-usa/8551-phone-call-with-barry?lang=en#8569


Oooo, I like this quote from the page.
Quote

remember, this is NOT a cheap pc, Amiga never was...and it certainly can't be one now.

In the (proper) Commodore era, Amiga had the best price-performance ratio on the market. This is madness.
 

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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 08:53:28 PM »
So...who am I going to buy my new engineering workstations from?

1.  A foul mouthed A**hole making chinese trinkets and a furniture making background for 22,000.

OR

2.  I buy HP Z800 workstations fully loaded for 8 grand a piece and backed by a company with a proven track record.


Hmm....


This is just beyond the absurd.  They moved into "milk whats left of whatever profit we have already got, if any" territory really quick.
 

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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 09:10:06 PM »
$25k? Is that all? Great, I'll swing by in my helicopter and pick up one or two ASAP.
 

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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2011, 09:36:41 PM »
Quote from: Transition;660627
If you thought a SAM system or X-1000 was expensive, well you would be wrong. CUSA's upcoming Amiga line will cost up to $25,000! Pictures or specs for these systems has not been released yet. More information via the link below.

http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/27-commodore-usa/8551-phone-call-with-barry?lang=en#8569


Wait, there is said just the case is $1000?

And they say AmigaOne boards are expensive :-)
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2011, 10:20:14 PM »
I am curious when and why their strategies have changed.
First time around they were making these Amiga boxes for the "retro" market, with intentions of their own rebadged distro with integrated emulation.

Now they are taking a shot at the high, high end content development market.  Where does the "Amiga" fit into that?  Are you telling me that for $25,000 I'll get a "high end graphics machine" running reskinned Linux and UAE on it?  I can just imagine Pixar waiting with baited breath to put in a 20 million dollar order.  The "Amiga" name doesn't mean squat to the people that would be in the market for these high end machines.

Listen, we've all seen the Amiga brand be raped and defiled in front of our eyes for many years, and while I quite enjoy the hysterical nature of all this - I'm confused as to why they would suddenly figure that going from bargain basement $600 commodity hardware stuffed into custom cases to $25,000 machines is the logical step.  And even if that made sense, why would anyone choose these systems over the big boys with 24/7 on site support and millions of customers worldwide?

There's 1001 vendors making systems like this, and not just the big guns like Dell.  It's like Yugo putting leather seats, nice stereos and burl walnut trim in their economy cars and figuring it's time to take out Rolls Royce.
 

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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2011, 10:35:26 PM »
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I am curious when and why their strategies have changed.
First time around they were making these Amiga boxes for the "retro" market, with intentions of their own rebadged distro with integrated emulation.

Now they are taking a shot at the high, high end content development market.  Where does the "Amiga" fit into that?  Are you telling me that for $25,000 I'll get a "high end graphics machine" running reskinned Linux and UAE on it?  I can just imagine Pixar waiting with baited breath to put in a 20 million dollar order.  The "Amiga" name doesn't mean squat to the people that would be in the market for these high end machines.

Listen, we've all seen the Amiga brand be raped and defiled in front of our eyes for many years, and while I quite enjoy the hysterical nature of all this - I'm confused as to why they would suddenly figure that going from bargain basement $600 commodity hardware stuffed into custom cases to $25,000 machines is the logical step.  And even if that made sense, why would anyone choose these systems over the big boys with 24/7 on site support and millions of customers worldwide?

There's 1001 vendors making systems like this, and not just the big guns like Dell.  It's like Yugo putting leather seats, nice stereos and burl walnut trim in their economy cars and figuring it's time to take out Rolls Royce.


While CommodoreOS would certainly make C64x/VIC users happier,
yes, you are right, it will have no effect on the higher priced CUSA "Amiga" range.

Well, even the Yugo never went that road. Last was discontinued in 2008
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