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Old 09-22-2011, 06:48 AM   #1
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Default You thought the X1000 was overpriced?

http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum...y?lang=en#8569

Compared to the $25,000 they'll want for a CUSA "Amiga PC" it's pocket change.
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:54 AM   #2
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Default Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?

Well, technically they'll start at only $5000.

When I read that link I really was shocked! There are companies that buy computers at that price point, and if that's CUSA's target market then they should examine the reasons why companies buy those computers. It's not because of feelings of nostalgia.
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Old 09-22-2011, 07:10 AM   #3
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Default Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?

Barry's been hitting the hard stuff. WTH is he thinking? Prosumer? With a brand known for cheapness? And he wants to sell them US$25K keyboard computers?

Insanity to confuse your competitors is not a good business strategy....
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Old 09-22-2011, 07:18 AM   #4
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Barry's been hitting the hard stuff. WTH is he thinking?
Probably something along the lines of, "I've only sold 200 or so of these cheap <$1000 pieces of junk, if I can sell just 200 of these $20,000 pieces of junk we're talking some real money!"
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Old 09-22-2011, 07:18 AM   #5
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Ohhh.... .Kaayy.......
....they gone loco.
......moving swiftly along.
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:28 AM   #6
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Default Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?

I used to think Barry was a scammer, now I see he's just completely delusional.
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:38 AM   #7
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what's wrong with you guys? bazza is a business genius. he sold 100.000s of his C64x. his products are all over major retailers like best buy. he's 'living a fairy tale' life. he flits about on private jets and helicopters, helping americans understand how to create jobs. he's going to bring the amiga back, smite dell and HP, and deliver the greatest operating system known to mankind, no doubt based on L4 or QNX or something exotic! read all about it on commodore-amiga.org -- so the world may know!

he is the messiah!! all bow down at the engineering and commercial genius of bazza!!!



sorry. some of the utter falsehoods that nutter is spewing is absurd. and that randy believes him.

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Old 09-22-2011, 09:06 AM   #8
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Well, technically they'll start at only $5000.
No, starting is about $2000 (AIO) which is cheaper then what is being offered in multi-core by A-EON. If you go with bang:buck ratio against A-EON, it's not even close.

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When I read that link I really was shocked! There are companies that buy computers at that price point, and if that's CUSA's target market then they should examine the reasons why companies buy those computers. It's not because of feelings of nostalgia.
What Barry is aiming for with the Commodore Amiga is the professional level. That means it has to have the gear and software that industry uses as standard. Yes, multi media is the niche he is aiming for as video production for the web is going to be a long term demand.
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:25 AM   #9
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sorry. some of the utter falsehoods that nutter is spewing is absurd. and that randy believes him.

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Default Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?

Seriouslt: what is C=USA's USP? There'd have to be a really good one to tempt any businesses away from the established brands (Dell, HP etc). The Commodore name means nothing to businesses since the 1970's (ask any IT manager), so what's the plan?

A new company with no proven record has zero chance without a USP, and presumably C=USA realise this.... what is it? The only USP I can see so far is a ridiculous price tag...?
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No, starting is about $2000 (AIO) which is cheaper then what is being offered in multi-core by A-EON. If you go with bang:buck ratio against A-EON, it's not even close.
So you're trying to argue for ultra-high-end commodity hardware on the basis that it's more cost-efficient than an ultra-niche market specialty board? Maybe you can start a program to provide discount snow to underprivileged penguins, while you're at it.
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What Barry is aiming for with the Commodore Amiga is the professional level. That means it has to have the gear and software that industry uses as standard. Yes, multi media is the niche he is aiming for as video production for the web is going to be a long term demand.
Yes, he's said as much. What we're wondering about is by what twists and turns of his very unique brand of logic he's arrived at the conclusion that high-end professional graphics workstations are the kind of thing people buy based on nostalgia from a company that can't even figure out how to properly cool a keyboard computer without constant input from end-users.
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:04 AM   #12
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Default Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?

I must admit that I would be quite happy about all of this if the new "Commodore Amiga" used Silicon Integrated Nanophotonics technology for the chips, Coriolis fans for cooling, MRAM for memory, blueray optical drives, thunderbolt ports .....

...well you get the idea.
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:10 AM   #13
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25 grand worth of computer

http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Produc...82E16859105799
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:12 AM   #14
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Hahahaha... Is this guy on drugs ?

Who wants to buy that crap then ? ... Hahahaha... Reality is harsh sometimes but NO ONE and NO COMPANY would buy those things. Think i just wet my pants laughing :')

Anyway ... For his languese he should have a punch in his face. Think his rude !
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:23 AM   #15
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One of my other hobbies is home theater and I can tell you now the case they are using is nowhere close to $1000. I looked into buying that exact case for a home theater project and the price I got was somewhere around $100+shipping if I remember correctly. I imagine if bought in larger qualities then the buyer would receive a discount. If he's paying these outrageous prices for parts he's doomed.
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One of my other hobbies is home theater and I can tell you now the case they are using is nowhere close to $1000. I looked into buying that exact case for a home theater project and the price I got was somewhere around $100+shipping if I remember correctly. I imagine if bought in larger qualities then the buyer would receive a discount. If he's paying these outrageous prices for parts he's doomed.
I imagine its less paying 1000 dollars for it, and more charging 1000 dollars for it.
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Default Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?

If somebody really has to purchase a computer with a $25,000 price tag, I imagine they will want to acquire it from a large multinational that offers support and warranty, not some obscure little computer company that will likely fade into oblivion as Commodore Gaming did before.
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I imagine its less paying 1000 dollars for it, and more charging 1000 dollars for it.
Yep, probably right. Don't think this is going to end well for Barry.
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:40 AM   #19
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Default Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?

I tend to defend C-USA. Not because I like them or intend to buy them, but because I think the hate tends to be exaggerated..

But $25k????? Seriously???
And you're calling it an Amiga?? No way...

Call it a Mac IIFX reborn, maybe. That thing was off the charts price wise when it was released..

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Yeah, 32 cores in total and 64Gig of RAM, not to mention that having worked with dells rack mounted servers myself I have to say they are a bloody joy for accessibility.

Do CUSA think they can compete with this? No chance.

They need to add something amazing to the mix if they want a bit of this pie and an Amiga sticker on the front just isn't it.
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