A1200 works with Dell SR2320L w/o FF/SD! - Page 3

Heiroglyph · 08-21-2011, 11:45 PM

I'm using a similar setup with an Acer H233H and a Commodore adapter. I've used 2000's, 4000D's and 4000T's.

Since I don't play games, I mainly use it for installation, diagnosing boot problems and for the few apps that don't quite work with RTG.

I did try PAL once and while it worked, it had some vertical lines. I can't guarantee that it was the monitors fault or that it couldn't have been adjusted out though. I just never use PAL, so I didn't really care.

I think HDMI is a pretty good indicator of whether it will work or not, but I doubt it's a guarantee.

Additional info: I have no extra monitors in the drawer. It doesn't flicker, but it's pretty jagged in interlace. It's like a marginal flickerfixer, sort of low resolution as if it's trying to take the flicker out. Very usable for my case, probably not for everyone.

hardlink · 08-22-2011, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bbond007

Anything that uses INTERLACE mode does flicker like, well, interlace mode

I was somehow expecting it to be de-interlaced.

Back when LCD monitors were very new (and very expensive), it was predicted one that could sync to the Amiga would de-interlace in 'hardware' - the pixels in each scan line are latched by the TFT transistors for that pixel until they are updated; sort of a 2-D flicker fixer. I spent years unsuccessfully trying to find an LCD monitor that would sync. Was that ever true?

**Darrin** · 08-22-2011, 07:15 AM

@ bbond007: Nice review.

With all of those ports, at least the monitor could be shared with a PC and an Amiga at the same time and save some desk space. I do something similar with my my main desktop PC with it connected to the DVI input and my Minimig connected to the VGA.

bbond007 · 08-22-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hardlink

Back when LCD monitors were very new (and very expensive), it was predicted one that could sync to the Amiga would de-interlace in 'hardware' - the pixels in each scan line are latched by the TFT transistors for that pixel until they are updated; sort of a 2-D flicker fixer. I spent years unsuccessfully trying to find an LCD monitor that would sync. Was that ever true?

I think it probably depends on the monitor. When using the AmigaManiac SVIDEO adapter I have seen some LCD monitors that appear deinterlaced and others where it flickers.

Perhaps there exists some ideal monitor out there that will deinterlace as well...

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Originally Posted by desiv

@bbond007 and NC - If the Interlace mode still flickers, I would wonder how badly..
I would think people seriously considering an LCD would prefer non-painful flickering.. ;-)

Not sure there's a good way to show that. Even a vid might not capture the flicker effect...

Why are all the monitors widescreen nowadays!!! (OK, that's not true, but still.. ;-)

desiv

Keep in mind that you CAN run workbench in MUTISCAN mode which will eliminate the flicker (unlike when using the SVIDEO adapter). The only drawback is that multiscan mode is a bit slower than interlace. I guess ECS amigas are limited to 2 out of 64 colors in that mode. Sucks to be them.

In overscan prefs I was able to adjust the screen centering in multiscan mode so thar the top workbench status bar is not cut off.

Mr_DBUG · 08-22-2011, 08:09 AM

Ugh tried my BenQ E2400HD, no go .. Even though it has a HDMI/DVI/VGA setup. A couple of years old monitor .. Monitor only said out-of-range :-(

For some strange reason I cant find the Dell SR2320L anywhere in Norway but only the Dell "ST2320L" , specs and outward appearance seem exactly the same ... I wonder ...... ?!?!
Its within my budget and I kinda could use an extra monitor, my main day to day monitor has developed a vertical stuck blue line :-P

magnetic · 08-22-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bbond007

I think it probably depends on the monitor. When using the AmigaManiac SVIDEO adapter I have seen some LCD monitors that appear deinterlaced and others where it flickers.

Perhaps there exists some ideal monitor out there that will deinterlace as well...

Hey

My Dell 22" lcd with analogue features as well (svid and comp) Flicker fixes my NTSC laced modes nicely!

mechy · 08-22-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by magnetic

Hey

My Dell 22" lcd with analogue features as well (svid and comp) Flicker fixes my NTSC laced modes nicely!

Well how about giving us a part number that would be helpfull?

mech

desiv · 08-22-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by magnetic

My Dell 22" lcd with analogue features as well (svid and comp) Flicker fixes my NTSC laced modes nicely!

Yeah! Spill the secrets!!

I'm wondering if we would want/need to know what type of Amiga to VGA adapter people are using also??

desiv

bbond007 · 08-22-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by magnetic

Hey

My Dell 22" lcd with analogue features as well (svid and comp) Flicker fixes my NTSC laced modes nicely!

I assume you mean that you are running Amiga video into the SVIDEO or COMPOSITE ports and not the VGA or are you saying your DELL flicker-fixes on the 15PIN VGA?

magnetic · 08-22-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bbond007

I assume you mean that you are running Amiga video into the SVIDEO or COMPOSITE ports and not the VGA or are you saying your DELL flicker-fixes on the 15PIN VGA?

Yes i'm saying that i'm using the Svideo input NOT VGA the VGA only works with amiga multiscan or vga only mode and there is lame vertical banding..

but with Svideo adaptor in NTSC Laced NO flicker!

Ill get the model number when I got the studio

magnetic · 08-23-2011, 03:50 AM

The monitor I have is a Dell 2005 FPW. (its an older one but from research when I got it I think it was the same screen as apple used at the time)

**Matt_H** · 08-23-2011, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by desiv

Yeah! Spill the secrets!!

I'm wondering if we would want/need to know what type of Amiga to VGA adapter people are using also??

desiv

With a monitor that actually syncs to Amiga frequencies, the type of adapter shouldn't matter, unless you're doing Genlock or Toaster work - those require some additional logic. Otherwise I believe it's just a change in physical shape from 23pin to 15pin.