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Timberwolf Progress Update
« on: August 04, 2011, 08:16:12 AM »
News from amigabounty.net

http://www.amigabounty.net/?function=viewhistory&projectid=44&historyid=53

Thomas Frieden has posted an update to the status of porting Firefox to Amiga OS 4.1.

Text:   I'm aware that we have been quiet lately, but don't worry, there's been work going on, and Timberwolf is making progress.

The 4.0 code base of Firefox now fully builds and a prototype implementation of the new rendering code was implemented, based on the old rendering code.

Instead of "fixing" the old code, though, we opted for a complete rewrite, for a couple of reasons. First of all, the old code became really bad with time (the usual thing that happens with experimental code). Secondly, reimplementing it all would get rid of any artifacts in the code that were still necessary in the 3.5 source tree. Basically, it's a clean start.

With the information gathered in the previous effort, it only took me some few hours to rewrite the skeleton for the widgets module. This does not include the rendering code yet. This will be up next, right after fixing a few outstanding bugs that cause crashes on exit.

In the process of porting the 4.0 base, we also ported a new version of sqlite. We'll release that in the near future (when I find the time, if you need it up front, drop me a mail).

I'm usually quite bad at predicting how long things will take (Actually, precisely "when it's done", of course), but I hope to have the rendering code in in the course of the next two to three weeks (depending on how much time I have for working on the project). We will release a new pre-release version as soon as we have something that can be remotely used.

We also wish to take the opportunity to thank all of those that supported us, and apologize for the long stretches of silence. We're still at work, and although progress is slow, we'll eventually get there.
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 08:26:32 AM »
Excellent :banana:
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 08:38:49 AM »
Excellent! :banana:
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 12:20:21 PM »
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 12:48:18 PM »
Thanks for all your efforts.  It is appreciated.
 

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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 01:41:34 PM »
can't wait to try the next release of Timberwolf & Thunderwolf too:drink:
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 02:09:30 PM »
With the next update 3 this program will be included?
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 02:11:53 PM »
Are they going to release the source code for this?
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 03:59:04 PM »
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Are they going to release the source code for this?

 
They have to
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 04:14:21 PM »
Quote from: nicholas;653006
Are they going to release the source code for this?


Only the parts that are already public.

http://www.amigabounty.net/?function=viewproject&projectid=44
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2011, 06:45:02 PM »
Yeh. usual amiga attitude. Do the bare minimum when it comes to sourcecode releases. (either no source, or as little as they can get away with) if everyone did this of course, there would be nothing to port to the Amiga. I realised I made some similar comments in another thread, but the source thing does keep coming up.. The attitude sucks.
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2011, 12:24:59 AM »
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Yeh. usual amiga attitude. Do the bare minimum when it comes to sourcecode releases. (either no source, or as little as they can get away with) if everyone did this of course, there would be nothing to port to the Amiga. I realised I made some similar comments in another thread, but the source thing does keep coming up.. The attitude sucks.


Well why don't you sit down and port it and release all sources then?

If this is the only way we get "firefox" then so be it.

Clearly I too would prefer the source code to be released, but there's no point bitching about the fact it hasn't.

Furthermore it is worth pointing out that if there are no developments released within a period of 12 months, then the source code WILL be released.

Seems reasonable to me.
 

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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2011, 12:41:08 AM »
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Well why don't you sit down and port it and release all sources then?

If this is the only way we get "firefox" then so be it.

Clearly I too would prefer the source code to be released, but there's no point bitching about the fact it hasn't.

Furthermore it is worth pointing out that if there are no developments released within a period of 12 months, then the source code WILL be released.

Seems reasonable to me.

Your first remark is part of the point. why not? because what a waste of time have people do the same stuff over and over again (ignoring the fact, that it's an incredibly complicated thing to port, and quite probably beyond me for sure, and that I personally have no interest in running it on any Amiga). My point was regarding the fact very little software on the Amiga is open, and Amiga users are the first to take from the open source world, and give back as little as they can or nothing.

I think there is a point discussing it. Perhaps people will change their minds and see that it would benefit all of us.

I didn't know about the last point. Well, I suppose that's something.
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2011, 04:15:39 AM »
Good news. This project is the MOST important amiga project going hw or sw.
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Re: Timberwolf Progress Update
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2011, 05:18:25 AM »
youre not exaggerating?
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