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Offline fishy_fizTopic starter

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Softkicking to run OS3.9
« on: June 03, 2011, 02:51:32 PM »
Im interested to try soft kicking 3.1 so I can install os3.9 on my a1200 (I have 3.0 physical roms). I have an apollo 1240 accelerator so Im under the impression RemApollo is my best option ? Anything else I should be aware of when softkicking?
Thanks in advance ?
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Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 03:17:20 PM »
Simple answer... NO... :)
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Offline utri007

Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2011, 04:45:40 PM »
RemApollo is your best change :)

With RemApollo you can also load modules, like comos new graphics.library, wich you can't do with blizkick
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Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2011, 06:15:08 PM »
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With RemApollo you can also load modules, like comos new graphics.library, wich you can't do with blizkick


Out of curiosity, why can't blizkick load the graphics.library? Did Cosmos break something?
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Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2011, 06:29:55 PM »
BlizKick CAN load libraries... :)

This is One of the small scripts I use with BlizKick on my Blizzard060/PCC board... :)

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FAILAT 10

Assign <>NIL: BKM: &quot;SYS:Expansion/BlizKick/Modules/&quot;
Assign <>NIL: Kik: &quot;DEVS:KickStarts/Bliz/&quot;

CD BKM:

C:+C/BlizKick Kik:ROM3.1.patched extresbuf=110000 Module= FixGetMsg con.dev.new FFS.V45.9 FSys.res.V45.7 inp.dev.V50.26 ram-hand.V44.21 Rom.IDTag.V44.26 IntAckFix msingbas.lib mffp.lib AlertFix QUIET

Assign <>NIL: BKM: Remove
Assign <>NIL: Kik: Remove

As you can see I use this script to replace the "mathieeesingbas.library" & the "mathffp.library" with 060 specific versions... :)
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Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2011, 06:32:43 PM »
Blizzkick is intended for Blizzard cards (which is why it works on yours Franko).
RemApollo is the Apollo card equivalent.
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Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2011, 06:36:32 PM »
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Blizzkick is intended for Blizzard cards (which is why it works on yours Franko).
RemApollo is the Apollo card equivalent.


Yeah, I had gathered that but I was just trying to explain to Jope that BlizKick can handle libraries as I think the other posts had led him to believe it couldn't... :)
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Offline utri007

Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2011, 11:11:23 PM »
With blizkick you need to have special module to load  specified external library. You just can't put any .library and load it with blizkick.

OR I'm I wrong? Have anybody loaded graphics.library with blizkick?
« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 11:23:16 PM by utri007 »
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Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2011, 01:22:17 AM »
Quote from: utri007;642252
With blizkick you need to have special module to load  specified external library.

No you don't. You can load anything you can LoadSeg.
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You just can't put any .library and load it with blizkick.

Of course the code needs to be fully reentrant and without any static data. Not all libraries qualify.
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Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2011, 01:39:23 AM »
Quote from: utri007;642252
With blizkick you need to have special module to load  specified external library. You just can't put any .library and load it with blizkick.

OR I'm I wrong? Have anybody loaded graphics.library with blizkick?


As Piru quite correctly answered your question, it only leaves me wondering why you would want to load the graphics.library separately when it's already in the fastmem ROM image... :confused:
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Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2011, 02:53:42 AM »
Quote from: Franko;642287
As Piru quite correctly answered your question, it only leaves me wondering why you would want to load the graphics.library separately when it's already in the fastmem ROM image... :confused:


there is a new third party graphics.library.
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Offline Jope

Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2011, 06:52:52 AM »
Quote from: Franko;642206
I think the other posts had led him to believe it couldn't... :)

.. or perhaps I was just being an asshole and wanted Utri to explain why he thought it couldn't .. ;-)
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Offline utri007

Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2011, 08:38:39 AM »
I have asked it here multiple times and nobody hasn't tell me how to do it and as a franko pointed out I got impression that it is not possible. I didn't get it work myself, with RemApollo it worked easily.

With cosmos new graphics.library games like napalm, foundation wich use hires modes are much more playable.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2011, 08:41:10 AM by utri007 »
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Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2011, 07:50:15 AM »
Thanks for the feedback people. Could someone please paste me a simple example of remapollo use just doing a standard softkick of a 3.1 rom image please ? I'm interested in loading extra modules and libs too, but being that Ive never used it before I just want to take it a step at a time.
Thanks in advance :)
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Re: Softkicking to run OS3.9
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2011, 08:07:48 AM »
Why you just don't get an El'Cheapo actual 3.1 kickstart and be done with?
3.0 is epix failz0rz.

If you have the 3.1 kick, you can then load modules of your choice with LoadModule/LoadResident at will.
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