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Mc68060fe133 ?
« on: April 13, 2011, 11:29:32 PM »
What is this processor?
MC68060FE133
I can find no technical data on it.

BTW - I'm watching Tron Legacy right now. Seems like a better movie than the original (not that that would take much work). Creepy seeing the CGI "actors".
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2011, 02:11:18 AM »
This processor designation may be fake. The only vendors that list this processor are Chinese. The highest clocked 68060 processors run at 75Mhz. A 75Mhz surface mount 68060 with no FPU or MMU is officially labeled MC68EC060FE75.
So, the "MC68060FE133" may be re-labeled  MC68EC060FE75 processors.

Apparently these fakes have been previously noted on the Natami forum, but their designation seems highly dubious.
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2011, 02:44:02 AM »
I'm pretty sure they're fake.
 

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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2011, 04:15:36 AM »
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I'm pretty sure they're fake.

Two out of four Chinese companies advertising this have responded with offers of 6.6 to $8 ea. in 100 piece lots.
Who knows what these are.
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2011, 05:12:24 AM »
Isn't it SMD unit used by one of Natami 68060 CPU card?

http://www.natami.net/gfx/NAe60F/NAe60F_1.jpg
 

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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2011, 06:38:17 AM »
New Tron movie was average, plus afew story changes that don't line up with the original movie.
The original movie had a far better story line, can't really judge the special effects as that was cutting edge for it's time. But overall my vote would be the original.
As for the CPU, can't find any reference for it.
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2011, 07:49:08 AM »
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Isn't it SMD unit used by one of Natami 68060 CPU card?

http://www.natami.net/gfx/NAe60F/NAe60F_1.jpg


It's a QFP package
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2011, 08:43:43 AM »
According to the Freescale (aka Motorola) website they never manufactured an MC68060FE133
 

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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2011, 09:01:10 AM »
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It's a QFP package


I stand corrected ;)

Found some more info on Natami website. Not much, though

http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=9749
 

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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 12:46:10 PM »
The Natami Team sourced out FE133 processor back in 2008 :-)

http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=3¬e=2301&order=&x=0
 

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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 01:39:36 PM »
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I still think these might be fakes.
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 04:07:25 PM »
as long as you dont spend money on one of these fakes your ok ;)
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2011, 05:43:42 PM »
The beginning of the mail that begins like this:
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...it means we must be wary of the offer. Funny, they always start their mail this way. :)
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2011, 06:18:29 PM »
Quote from: int21h;631579
I stand corrected ;)


No need to stand corrected - if the device used on Natami is QFP then your original statement holds true, because QFP is merely a type of SMD package.

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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2011, 08:31:42 PM »
Hmmm, Freescale don't list any FE parts on their website. Even in the obsolete section.

Except the XC68LC060FE50 and we know they made others... so not a good resource of information :(

Seems very strange to me that there would be Motorola branded parts dated 2008 when they had spun off their chip division as Freescale many years earlier and all chip lines had been re-branded Freescale.

The picture of the NatAmi chip has the mask G59Y which is a special low cost mask just for EC/LC cpu (i.e. it physically has no FPU) and is not the latest Rev6 mask set so it has at least one bug.

http://www.freescale.com/files/shared/doc/pcn/PCN2378.html?fpsp=1&WT_TYPE=Product%20Change%20Notices&WT_VENDOR=FREESCALE&WT_FILE_FORMAT=html&WT_ASSET=Documentation
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