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[zylesea]

Originally Posted by Tempest

For me it's a big deal, big enough to stop using MorphOS after 7 years. I don't mind paying for a license, as a matter of fact I did.

I don't want to be bothered by selling my computer with a registerd MorphOS copy just to upgrade to a better computer or convince the MorphOS team my computer is broken. I just want to buy better hardware if available and supported by MorphOS and use my registered MorphOS copy on that.

As long as that restriction exists I'm not going to invest in MorphOS again.

It is everyone's choice. But if I do the calculation for my Efika I cmae down to as little as 3.58 EUR/month. So even if I sold the maschine today and the share of the MorpHSO license would be only 35 EUR (less than 1/3 of the original price) MorphOS would have costed me less than 2.50 EUR/month. My Win XP license from the same time may be transferred to another maschine, but is outdated already (my MorphOS license is still the most recent one). It is written off after this time. And so is MorphOS. After all effectively MorphOS may be cheaper than a Windows OEM license. This is better handeled with some business calculation instead of principles and feelings. But nobody is forced to buy a license. It is a clear deal: take it or leave it.

[runequester]

We'll see what I end up with, after trying it out, provided this mac mini deal goes through.

Thank you for all the information !

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by zylesea

It is everyone's choice. But if I do the calculation for my Efika I cmae down to as little as 3.58 EUR/month. So even if I sold the maschine today and the share of the MorpHSO license would be only 35 EUR (less than 1/3 of the original price) MorphOS would have costed me less than 2.50 EUR/month. My Win XP license from the same time may be transferred to another maschine, but is outdated already (my MorphOS license is still the most recent one). It is written off after this time. And so is MorphOS. After all effectively MorphOS may be cheaper than a Windows OEM license. This is better handeled with some business calculation instead of principles and feelings. But nobody is forced to buy a license. It is a clear deal: take it or leave it.

That calculation is very nice and all but I don't use Windows, I'm a Linux user so that nice calculation doesn't fly with me. I took the leave it option, sadly no more MorphOS skins and occasional ports from me.

[zylesea]

Originally Posted by Tempest

That calculation is very nice and all but I don't use Windows, I'm a Linux user so that nice calculation doesn't fly with me. I took the leave it option, sadly no more MorphOS skins and occasional ports from me.

I think you should consider AROS for your Amiga fix then - also a fine choice. ;-)

[runequester]

Cost doesn't worry me too much. Limitations on the end user do.

But in the end, we'll see once I have a chance to test it, and how much I end up wanting to use it after messing around with the trial


I would /like/ this to become my day to day system.

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by zylesea

I think you should consider AROS for your Amiga fix then - also a fine choice. ;-)

Tried that, but after using MorphOS for so long Aros is just a very big step backwards. I've still got a couple of real Amiga's to get my Amiga fix :-)

[bbond007]

Originally Posted by Franko

I don't mind paying for it but when it comes to being told things like you need to prove your machine is broken, when you sell your machine you need to take it off etc... then I'm afraid that's a big No No to me...

Franko,

Actually the opposite, it is suggested you sell the hardware with the Morphos license.

I sold my efika with license for $1 + the price of a new license for my mini g4 1.4. The efika was pretty lame - slow flaky USB, not enough ram, etc.

But... the end result may be yet another Morphos user somewhere. Probably a frustrated user, but a user that would not have happened had I simply transfered the licence to better hardware.

Perhaps when/if morphos is released for my powerbook5,8 I'll do the same with the mini g4. I'll ask more than $1 though...

[pampers]

At the moment I have my 4th MorphOS machine. Past three ones I sold with licence fee calculated in price. What is such a big deal about it?

At least you can buy HW with on os 'suggested' by retailer or producer.

[kolla]

Originally Posted by Tempest

As long as that restriction exists I'm not going to invest in MorphOS again.

Same here. If I cannot buy a license that gives me rights to install it on whatever hardware I decide myself, then I'm simply not interested in buying it at all.

[nicholas]

Originally Posted by Piru

In addition it might be worth noting that new MorphOS versions are free to registered users (meaning that the keyfile works with future versions). This has been the case ever since MorphOS 2.0 release where the registration fee was introduced. This means that MorphOS 2.0 users have gotten 7 free upgrades so far.

If I buy MorphOS 2.7 do you know what will be the last free update version available to me? 2.8, 3.0, 3.5, 4.1 etc

[nicholas]

Originally Posted by kolla

Same here. If I cannot buy a license that gives me rights to install it on whatever hardware I decide myself, then I'm simply not interested in buying it at all.

Crack it.

[kolla]

Originally Posted by bbond007

Actually the opposite, it is suggested you sell the hardware with the Morphos license.

And if he wants to keep the hardware to run OSX, Linux, *BSD or whatever?

This licensing scheme is just bullocks, plain and simple.

[nicholas]

Originally Posted by kolla

And if he wants to keep the hardware to run OSX, Linux, *BSD or whatever?

This licensing scheme is just bullocks, plain and simple.

One has to ask if it's even legal within the EU?

[kolla]

Originally Posted by nicholas

Crack it.

Not worth it.
UAE on proper hardware runs in circles around it anyways.

[zylesea]

Originally Posted by kolla

And if he wants to keep the hardware to run OSX, Linux, *BSD or whatever?

Rather academic and unlikely. The hw MorphOS runs on *is* already outdated and cheap. A Powermac goes for really little money and its worth is not really increasing over time. Or to say it that way: most of these computers are more or less worthless marketwise. There is not much to lose. If you happen to ditch your MorphOS installation on a Powermac and desperatle have the desire to run BSD on such a device, sell the reg'd maschine and buy another non reg'd one - you'll get a good share of the registration fee back.
And honestly - how often do you change your Amiga? Well, I bought somewhen in the nineties an A1200, 2002 as successor a Pegasos, 2008 as successor a Mac mini G4 - those devices are really written off. Life is too short for hindering principles (bit bold statement though, but there is some truth in it).