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A4000_Mad · 01-16-2011, 04:19 AM

Welcome back sicky

Hopes it's ok to ask some OS4 Classic questions here....

Do you need OS4.0 Classic installed first before you can install OS4.1 Classic?

Will OS4.1 Classic work with GFX cards like the Cybervision 64 and Picasso IV or must you have the Radeon card?

Thanks,

**Karlos** · 01-16-2011, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by A4000_Mad

Welcome back sicky

Hopes it's ok to ask some OS4 Classic questions here....

Do you need OS4.0 Classic installed first before you can install OS4.1 Classic?

As far as I know it's a standalone release.

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Will OS4.1 Classic work with GFX cards like the Cybervision 64 and Picasso IV or must you have the Radeon card?

You certainly need a Radeon card if you want to have fun with compositing. As for older cards, I can't say, only having tested it on BVision, but I can't see why any of the above legacy cards wouldn't work provided they had working P96 drivers to begin with. Perhaps someone with one of those cards can clarify.

Einstein · 01-16-2011, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sicky

I have decided to return to the Amiga, purely for fun and a hobby. Got to sort out an OS4 machine for myself soon, can't wait!

For Amiga fun I suggest to keep yourself inside the Amiga68k/*UAE box, not outside.

Varthall · 01-16-2011, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Einstein

For Amiga fun I suggest to keep yourself inside the Amiga68k/*UAE box, not outside.

I'd suggest the opposite instead, I find doing stuff for OS4 to be more fun.

Varthall

Iggy · 01-16-2011, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Varthall

I'd suggest the opposite instead, I find doing stuff for OS4 to be more fun.

Varthall

Yep, I'd second that. I don't run a lot of legacy apps myself (in UAE or with OS friendly apps - directly).
There's some neat PPC specific software.

**runequester** · 01-16-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Einstein

For Amiga fun I suggest to keep yourself inside the Amiga68k/*UAE box, not outside.

I guess Im confused how a real amiga with powerpc installed is less amiga than some PC from dell running an emulator

Einstein · 01-16-2011, 10:27 AM

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I guess Im confused how a real amiga with powerpc installed is less amiga than some PC from dell running an emulator

A PPC expansion card, as opposed to a PPC machine, is a hardware *extension* to the *Amiga*, and I'm guessing he wants to get the latter, for which reason I gave a suggestion. I wouldn't mind a PPC expansion (on a working 68k machine) to play around with, but I wouldn't even pay for that.
Regarding emulator, well, the emulator can run hardware banging programs/games/demos. It might be virtual, but that's Amiga to me; running Amiga software, including aforementioned hw banging ones is the deciding factor for me. If I'm to spend most my time in a *UAE box on top of PPC "amiga like" OS to get my Amiga needs then that PPC + OS is not an Amiga for me. For that reason I stick to any of the mainstream x86 "amiga unlike" OSs + *UAE for maximum amount of functionality, flexibility, apps and Amiga fun.

Iggy · 01-16-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Einstein

A PPC expansion card, as opposed to a PPC machine, is a hardware *extension* to the *Amiga*, and I'm guessing he wants to get the latter, for which reason I gave a suggestion. I wouldn't mind a PPC expansion (on a working 68k machine) to play around with, but I wouldn't even pay for that.
Regarding emulator, well, the emulator can run hardware banging programs/games/demos. It might be virtual, but that's Amiga to me; running Amiga software, including aforementioned hw banging ones is the deciding factor for me. If I'm to spend most my time in a *UAE box on top of PPC "amiga like" OS to get my Amiga needs then that PPC + OS is not an Amiga for me. For that reason I stick to any of the mainstream x86 "amiga unlike" OSs + *UAE for maximum amount of functionality, flexibility, apps and Amiga fun.

He has a good point. If your primary interest is legacy software then either run it on legacy hardware or use emulation. A PPC OS is a neat platform for carrying software development forward, but when running legacy software its not doing much more than an emulator.