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[ToddH]

Originally Posted by actung_bab

imagine if amiga people brought up all the cards the ac people be angry as ...hehe
sounds like a plan

The Natami is going to have a PCI slot. Be nice to be able to throw one of these cards in that bad boy and maybe run OS 4.1 Classic.

[redrumloa]

Originally Posted by Piru

It will be abysmal. Much slower than real fast memory and certainly nowhere near DDR400 SDRAM performance.

Another case of misleading marketing from Elbox.

I hope no one expects DDR400 speed

In Zorro III you might get ~15MB/s. I can only guess how low it would be on an A1200 in real life, 500K/s maybe?

[wawrzon]

If you plan on purchasing any Elbox products in near future, do it by the end of this year. With the New Year, prices for most of them (Mediators, FastATA, memory expansions, etc.) will go up about 30%. This will be due to much higher costs of the components used in the production. Most of the necessary connectors and 5V CPLD chips are now very difficult to acquire and much more expensive than ever before.

as if that stuff was still manufactured? really?

[pyrre]

My mistake, must be tired. time to go to sleep...

[PanterHZ]

Originally Posted by Matt_H

I'll stick with what I've been saying for years: slow RAM is better than no RAM.

I have to agree with you on this one, because having ANY fast ram - even if it's of the slow type will open up more possibilities of what can be done on the Amiga.

But I don't think the point of using GFX card ram as fast ram is that it actually should replace any real fast ram, no I think the point is that it simply is meant for adding more to the already existing fast ram. If I understand things correctly, the GFX ram will have a lower priority than real fast ram, which means that it will only be used when it's needed.

In my opinion, it is a GOOD thing Elbox have done here (provided that it actually works that is).

[PanterHZ]

Originally Posted by pyrre

My mistake, must be tired. time to go to sleep...

And here I was ready to correct your mistake, only to find out that you already figured it out. Well that's life I guess

PS! God jul og godt nyttår pyrre

[Comi]

Hey Elbox guys, are you there, say something!!!
Hmmm, maybe they already start to produce Shark and don't have time for talks!

[DCAmiga]

Originally Posted by A1260

I am still waiting for some news about the DRAGON 1200 project & your SHARKPPC project....

Me Too, La Sigh ...

[motorollin]

Originally Posted by A1260

I am still waiting for some news about the DRAGON 1200 project & your SHARKPPC project....

Don't hold your breath.

--
moto

[Cosmos]

This new pci.library is romable ??

[Dwyloc]

Originally Posted by redrumloa

In Zorro III you might get ~15MB/s. I can only guess how low it would be on an A1200 in real life, 500K/s maybe?

True it will be slow but if you look at it as a virtual ram solution for workbench 3.x 68K Amiga's I expect its a lot faster and more compatible than the old harddisk based virtual ram solutions on the people used with their Amigas in the 90s.

[Buzzfuzz]

Are these kits going to be availble trough Amigakit, Vesalia and other retailers ?

[ognix]

I don't own a Mediator and at the moment (until I repair my A4000 M/B) and I won't buy it for now.
But it's in my plans, and since the Elbox guys provided this functionality, it's a good point in their favour (they are still working on "classic" Amiga hardware).

Well, they may be more fair about posting real benchmarks and tech info about their products (like Individual Computers does), but it's very good about their commitment on the Amiga side.
So thumbs up for Elbox!

P.S. Elbox guys, if you are here, post some tech info and comments about this: this will improve your image among potential costumers, and probably higher sales.

[DJS]

Originally Posted by ognix

Well, they may be more fair about posting real benchmarks and tech info about their products (like Individual Computers does), but it's very good about their commitment on the Amiga side.

The software for adding the part of gfx card SDRAM to Amiga system memory was already released -- and was released for free for all Mediator users. So, each user of Mediator for A1200 (or A3/4000) with any supported PCI gfx card can check this speed in his specific config.


The speed of the Radeon SDRAM configured as Amiga 1200 system memory is on about the same level as in A3000 and A4000 computers. Benchmarks of the Radeon memory configured as Amiga system memory were posted on Amiga.org in this thread.

The SDRAM memory on the Radeon card is accessible from three sides: 1) from Amiga processor, 2) from the busmaster PCI cards, 3) from the Radeon gfx chipset.

1) The speed of this memory from Amiga processor accesses is limited by hardware design of the Amiga 1200 CPU slot interface of the specific turbo card. This speed varies from 5 MB/s to 13 MB/s depending of the turbo card model.

2) The speed from PCI busmaster cards sitting in the PCI slots of Mediator busboard is limited by gfx card design. For Radeon 9200 based on M9+ chipset write speed is up to 128 MB/s (in the burst mode), read speed is up to about 50 MB/s.

3) The SDRAM speed when accessing from M9+ core is up to 4 GB/s.

[Comi]

@ DJS
Ok thanks for replay and commitment like someone says!

And now major question if you are her to support:
Where is Shark PPC Turbo card for faster performance.?
And if you cant produce it whay you still keeping banners on your site ( 10 years almost)?