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68060 Accelerators
« on: December 22, 2010, 02:28:19 PM »
Does anyone make accelerators using this processor or anyone know if there may be future plans to sell them again? I want to know if it is worth waiting for or just buy a 68030/56 and be happy with the smaller upgrade.
 
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2010, 02:32:31 PM »
No one is currently making them (unless they're keeping a heck of a secret,) and I haven't heard anything but wishful thinking on the topic.

Best to just grab an '030 if you're looking to play now.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 02:42:30 PM »
An 030 is also more compatible. If you use your Amiga mainly for games you will be happy with 030.
If you use mostly Apps/Productivity the 060 (or 040) will give you noticeably more speed and would be worth trying to get a hold of one.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 02:51:04 PM »
The biggest reason I was looking at the 060 was for running OS 3.9.  I know it runs on a 030 but looks like it runs better on a 060.  
 
I'll be patient and see what happens.  Pretty happy with what I have right now, OS 3.9 would just be a nice upgrade.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 04:49:49 PM »
060 speeds up whole system. If you have Indivision for example and want to run HighGFX modes, they will be faster with 060.

Also whole system feels faster, even on 3.0/3.1

In 3.9, icon system slow down WB, a 060 will speed up system a lot. I used to run NewIcons on 030, even hires laced with 030 and NI and it slowed down system a lot!
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2010, 04:53:10 PM »
supposedly by using faster RAM, the new 030 cards will be quite a bit snappier than older, equivalent 030s

060 cards tend to go for a lot of money though, so there's that too.
 

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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2010, 05:10:15 PM »
Just FYI, I had, many years ago an Amiga 1200 with 68060 accelerator.
I was quite disappointed by the speed - dog slow.

It is certainly faster than an 68030 - but the point being it's just another shade of extremely slow, and nothing makes AGA work good.

So, with the retro hobby, what should one do?  Buy the fastest you can make the hardware go?  But given that's not a real amiga in the sense that very few people actually had 060 machines...or go with stock - that simulates the real experience most people had, but isn't satisfying because you want at least to add a hard drive and extra RAM.  Might as well simulate a more comfortable experience than the real one was :)

I don't know, I guess everyone makes their own choice, but I do know, if you don't yet own an 060 the temptation is to believe that it's fast, or somehow fast in context, or makes this or that work well.

And I didn't feel that way, after the purchase.  I felt it was still a slow machine.  Terrible for web browsing, even back then with web 1.0 - I think I'd go with the 030, it's cheaper, simulates the real amiga experience, and the accelerator card allows you to add ram, which is probably the main goal anyway....not to improve rendering speed, or whatever. :)
 

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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2010, 05:19:41 PM »
Having an '060 makes your penis bigger.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2010, 05:29:24 PM »
No 68060 accelerators in production for the A1200 that I know of, but didn't GVP make some 68060 boards for big box Amigas this year?
 

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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 05:37:56 PM »
Try software hut. http://www.softhut.com
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2010, 05:45:12 PM »
A 68060 is a whole other league to your 030 cards, even the new ACA1230's

If you go for one get a Blizzard 1260, I've owend a couple now and they are very well built cards, I expect them to last for some years to come yet :)
 

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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2010, 06:00:22 PM »
iirc, motorolla CPUs with odd numbers ( 68010 and '030) are just slight improvements. look at benchmarks.

so, there is reason why '060 and '040 are expensive, and why some people are envious..
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2010, 06:23:11 PM »
The Blizzard 1260 usually sells around 300 EUR these days, which is only 100 more than the new ACA1230/56.
It would be 6 to 8 times more powerful when comparing MIPS.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2010, 06:27:17 PM »
The real question to ask is what the machine will be used for.
 

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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2010, 07:37:39 PM »
My GVP030 Amiga is fine for games and such, but my Blizzard060 & Blizzard 060/PPC miggies are the bees knees when it come to using an Amiga on OS 3.x... :)

If you want the best all round performance and the ability to create and play MP3s, edit large AIFF audio files, faster GFX packages D.T.P. etc... then it's well worth the money to buy a second hand Blizzard060 with or without PPC.

If games are your main thing then an 030 would do just fine and the more ram you get for it the better, the only problem I see with the new AmiKit one is the lack of an FPU which even on an 030 comes in quite handy for a lot of things... :)