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Old 12-14-2010, 08:21 AM   #1
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Default CommodoreUSA site updated

Love 'em or hate 'em, something is happening over at C-USA though it looks like they might have some load-balancer issues:
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Home.aspx

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Old 12-14-2010, 08:32 AM   #2
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Isn't that backround image on the "Workbench 5" page yet another stolen 3D image from aminet?

I love the way these guys are spamming/trolling the hell out of Amigaworld lately....

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Love 'em or hate 'em, something is happening over at C-USA though it looks like they might have some load-balancer issues:
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Home.aspx

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Old 12-14-2010, 08:38 AM   #3
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I can't wait to see what the new Amiga Workbench 5 actually is
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Old 12-14-2010, 08:48 AM   #4
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Default Re: CommodoreUSA site updated

I have to admit, while I am very suspicious of CommodoreUSA (I use that name lightly), I do like the new site and the design of the "Amiga" cases. They are simple and elegant, yet really do remind me of the originals. (I'm guessing these are just renders though and might not ever really see the light of day - and if so they will just be PCs with Amiga emulation). I would even guess that these cases are merely re-badged third party PC cases that already exist somewhere on the market.

To someone not that familiar with original Amigas though, they might wonder why the "highest end" of the line is numbered 2000 rather than 3000 (which is the mid-range line on Commodore USA). Of course we know why - the large black case mimics the original A2000's coffin-case.
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Old 12-14-2010, 09:14 AM   #5
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I would even guess that these cases are merely re-badged third party PC cases that already exist somewhere on the market.
Thats right. Its just a bunch of Chinese HTPC cases that have been around for a while. I guess they'll just slap some stickers on them.

http://www.aumro.com/products.html
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Old 12-14-2010, 09:17 AM   #6
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Well, the site does look much better.

Once he starts shipping product (which I'm sure he will), he'll finally silence a large portion of the naysayers.

I told you guys after contacting Altman, he's serious about this.

And the use of the Workbench name is a brilliant way to side step the Hyperion/AOS trademark issue.
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I'm guessing that "Workbench 5" is going to be some kind of Windows 7 or Ubuntu theme. The emulation will be a couple Commodore icons on the desktop that will launch a preconfigrued WinUAE and C64 emulation.

I'm not sure who is going to buy any of this stuff?


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Old 12-14-2010, 09:32 AM   #8
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Default Re: CommodoreUSA site updated

As a professional company, I am sure his legal team has advised him that "abandonware" is not a legal term, and that he probably shouldn't be advertising that.
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Default Re: CommodoreUSA site updated

"Workbench 5" appears to be a Linux distro, perhaps it's a way to revive the old "Anubis ate my chickens" thread...
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Default Re: CommodoreUSA site updated

Well Barry and maybe one other person in the Amiga Kommunity will label me a troll, but I have very little faith in seeing anything other than a Cybernet PC with a label slapped on it actually for sale.

Prove me wrong CUSA.
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Well Barry and maybe one other person in the Amiga Kommunity will label me a troll, but I have very little faith in seeing anything other than a Cybernet PC with a label slapped on it actually for sale.
The commodore 64 pictures prove they are actually doing something.

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64Prototype.aspx

Now whether that is something they will ever ship to anyone is another matter. It's a pity it's not fanless & the keyboard needs a bit of work, hopefully the finished product will look more like the render than the prototype (function key colour for a start).
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:15 AM   #13
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There's no asterisk on the keyboard!
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This "company" and I use that term loosely, really loosely, is a joke.

Call the phone # the site, its a voicemail box. Very impressive.

Who but a huge amiga or commodore fan would buy any of this crap, and most commodore and amiga fans see right through the smokescreen and know he's just slapping stickers on already existing stuff. So far they have yet to make a single product for sale themselves, but they sure are good and slapping their name on stuff, and acting like they did something.

For all their hype, so far I bet their sales figures would make being a homeless person and begging for change look like a better business idea.

Workbench 5? Yeah that will be an ubuntu respin with uae and an amiga wallpaper. They will spend upwards for 20 minutes putting that together.
Mark my words.

The c64 thing? I can build one myself from an c64 case, but why would I want to type on that ancient keyboard? This project has been done many times before, all over the internet by hobbyists, but never for sale.

Click on products, I get they ran out of stickers to slap on the cybernet zpc's they were selling for like 40% more than you could get them for direct from the real maker (cybernet). Wow their support for their products must be excellent, hype the hell out of your "new" computer,
sell it for 2 months then drop it, in favor of cases you bought wholesale and slapped old names on.

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This is the 21st century, and so multiplication is no longer needed.
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I am confused...

I am all for people trying to do something for the Amiga community BUT I don't get the C64 revival...

Anyone can do what they are doing, and indeed it's been done a few times already, by taking an original C64 shell and putting all those bits in. A mini-itx board, slim DVD drive and off you go, you might even make a more powerful one.

Also I don't understand the OS part...it's pretty clear it's something (an emulator) running on top of Windows or Linux, again, anyone can do that.

I am lost
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"Once he starts shipping product (which I'm sure he will), he'll finally silence a large portion of the naysayers."

Hey iggy, did you forget about the 2 or 3 other keyboard all in one computers which he was hyping for months and then never shipped?

What have they shipped so far? Some zpc's with commodore stickers slapped on them?

And what about the other few all in one keyboard comuters they used to have on their site? (All of them were existing products they planned to just put a commodore sticker on)

Any mention of those mysteriously dissapeared now. Use the wayback machine to see the old website, they have hyped many products so far that just dissapeared and never shipped.

With that kind of track record already, I doubt any of this new stuff they are trying to hype will ever arrive.

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"Once he starts shipping product (which I'm sure he will), he'll finally silence a large portion of the naysayers."

Hey iggy, did you forget about the 2 or 3 other keyboard all in one computers which he was hyping for months and then never shipped?

What have they shipped so far? Some zpc's with commodore stickers slapped on them?

And what about the other few all in one keyboard comuters they used to have on their site? (All of them were existing products they planned to just put a commodore sticker on)

Any mention of those mysteriously dissapeared now. Use the wayback machine to see the old website, they have hyped many products so far that just dissapeared and never shipped.

With that kind of track record already, I doubt any of this new stuff they are trying to hype will ever arrive.

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Actually, there was only one all-in-one system, a relabeled Cybernet system Altman named Phoenix. It's still listed and while I see no way to order one on the current website, I believe it is available.

As far as the market for the C64, I might buy one. Why? For the retro freak out your friends that used to own an original C64 factor. Plus, if Barry uses the key switches he's mentioned for the last several months in the keyboard it should have nice tactile feedback.

I'm baffled at all the negativity. How many of you have suggested a move to X86 architecture? Now AROS users have an opportunity to run their OS on PCs with legally licensed Amiga branding.

Considering past history, I can understand being cautious, but don't you guys think you ought to give Altman a chance before you shoot him down?

The website looks much improved. The model lineup is now fleshed out. C64s should ship in the first quarter of 2011 and the rest of the line is not as challenging. Why not wait and see how things go? Personally, I'm cautiously optimistic.
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