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[redfox]

We have many options available (Classic Amiga, many fine Amiga emulation products, MorphOS, OS4 and AROS). I think that the future is full of possibilities if we will let them happen.

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redfox

[redfox]

double post..

[the_leander]

Originally Posted by redfox

I sincerely appologize for using the term "trolling" ......

Don't be sorry. It was correctly used.

[Arkhan]

Originally Posted by orb85750

But most of the new hardware under development, such as Natami, will offer many improvements over older hardware. If you simply want to play some Amiga games from floppy, then by all means grab a cheap A500 off eBay.

improvements to do what?

[commodorejohn]

Originally Posted by Arkhan

improvements to do what?

Anything you damn well please!

[klx300r]

Originally Posted by Iggy

I am baffled by this seconded opinion myself. If I thought using 2nd hand hardware that Apple has abandoned support of was somehow supporting Apple I might be able to understand this idea.
But all I want is faster, more affordable PPC hardware and this stuff has surprised me as to how good it runs (if you don't rely on Apple for the OS).
....
But I am happy with the cast off G4 and G5 products. They make continuing to support PPC OS development affordable (and fast).

I also agree that I want a faster & more affordable PPC hardware to run AmigaOS natively and that's why I invested in my Samflex440 after the lawsuit was over and we finally got new hardware....you see now ACube has taken the money from 440 sales and reinvested into the development of the Sam460ex which makes me happy

IMHO AmigaOS was/is worth fighting for & I'm glad to support it's future.

[kedawa]

The SAM460ex isn't going to be any better than a PowerMac, though.
I guess if you just want to keep the ball rolling for AOS, then it's one of very few options, but I don't think I could justify the cost personally.

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by kedawa

The SAM460ex isn't going to be any better than a PowerMac, though.
I guess if you just want to keep the ball rolling for AOS, then it's one of very few options, but I don't think I could justify the cost personally.

The problem is Acube's focus on relatively low power Applied Micro processors. Not only do Acube's products demand a fairly high price, but their performance per Mhz is lower than a G4 (let alone a G5). And while I really like A-eon's X1000, its really hard to justify the price when a G5 will perform comparably at a much lower cost.

I'd like to see some new MorphOS hardware, and I (and a few others) have investigated the idea. But its going to have to be more powerful than an Acube motherboard and less costly than an X1000.

[runequester]

Originally Posted by Arkhan

improvements to do what?

The stuff people do on computers.

[klx300r]

Originally Posted by kedawa

The SAM460ex isn't going to be any better than a PowerMac, though.
I guess if you just want to keep the ball rolling for AOS, then it's one of very few options, but I don't think I could justify the cost personally.

but the point I'm making is that we are moving forward and finally not going backwards when AI had us all in a strangle hold. Amiga has it's own dedicated hardware that's brand spanking new and reliable....so far the Sam440 was successful enough for ACube to make the 460ex & hopefully the X1000 will be successful enough for A-Eon to make the next 'better' PPC Amiga hardware on so on etc. etc. etc.

AROS is rocking along with no schedule to make the x86 camp happy so the future looks bright for both PPC and x86 Amigans world wide

[Arkhan]

Originally Posted by runequester

The stuff people do on computers.

yeah I don't see the point. Its clear they wont develop hardware thats going to be a 3D game power house, so modern gaming is out.

and then whats left? Dopey old stuff thats already being done on current hardware.

you can use whats out there already to do all this stuff. What improvements are really going to happen for you to "do stuff".

[runequester]

Originally Posted by Arkhan

yeah I don't see the point. Its clear they wont develop hardware thats going to be a 3D game power house, so modern gaming is out.

and then whats left? Dopey old stuff thats already being done on current hardware.

you can use whats out there already to do all this stuff. What improvements are really going to happen for you to "do stuff".

Run the dopey old stuff on hardware that isn't 20 years old and held together by scotch tape and bubble gum

Get a beefy compatible amiga, without having to cough out 600 bucks on ebay for a powerPC card that "totally worked 10 years ago, when my brother put it in his garage"

[Arkhan]

if you say so.


what are you running though that really warrants new hardware coming out. Games dont count. What other stuff?

[runequester]

Originally Posted by Arkhan

if you say so.


what are you running though that really warrants new hardware coming out. Games dont count. What other stuff?

I'd love to play MP3's without my 1200 exploding from the strain, without buying shaky old accelerators for hundreds of dollars off ebay.


Here's the question though: What harm is it if the Natami or clone a sees light and people can buy it ?

I have never understood the fervent desire geeks get for technology to fail or not get made.

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by klx300r

but the point I'm making is that we are moving forward and finally not going backwards when AI had us all in a strangle hold. Amiga has it's own dedicated hardware that's brand spanking new and reliable....so far the Sam440 was successful enough for ACube to make the 460ex & hopefully the X1000 will be successful enough for A-Eon to make the next 'better' PPC Amiga hardware on so on etc. etc. etc.

AROS is rocking along with no schedule to make the x86 camp happy so the future looks bright for both PPC and x86 Amigans world wide

There is something there we can agree with. It's a shame we're not entire rid of Bill McEwen. Now he's managed dilute the definition of what an Amiga is. Frankly. I can't think of anyone who's done us more harm.

And new hardware! This is great.

I now you don't agree with those of us using Macs, but consider this, MorphOS was designed to run on PPC equipped Amigas, it was ported to one of the first NG platforms (the Pegasos), and our developers are doing what they can to keep our system alive and moving forward.

And, personally, I disagree that there is a blue vs red camp fraction. I'm glas AOS is in Hyperions hand and I wish them continued sucess.