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Old 11-22-2010, 04:16 PM   #1
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Default ART Episode 48 - Obscure Podcast

We're back again with a new episode. This will most likely be the last episode till the New Year. Things are already starting to get busy with everyone for the Holidays. Please check out our new Facebook page and follow us on Twitter for quick updates. Links at the bottom of the post.

Tangent: New poll up the AmiZed website. And now, some notes!

Hosts: Rich Lawrence, Sean Fitzgerald, Mike Blackburn, Bill P., Jerry Withers.

Check out our new Facebook page. Plus follow us on Twitter.
* Talked about a bunch of Amiga Events that were happening that weekend.
* OWB 1.11 for Morphos Released.
* Jerry tells us a little about his experience with Timberwolf.
* CUBE 1 – 3d FPS for Amiga OS4 port released.
* New Native IRC-client in the works for Morphos.
* KickROM Bounty Phase I & II for AROS 68K.
* Segue into screen dragging?
* Rich calls out trolls.
* We made it on Moobunny!?

Drama, laughs and more!

Episode 48 at AmiZed Studios Website
AmiZed Studios Facebook Page
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Old 11-22-2010, 07:20 PM   #2
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Quick note.. a little hasty on the "This will most likely be the last episode till the New Year." comment. We will be likely doing another show or two.

In fact we are trying to line up some developer/coder interviews to round out the year. Any suggestions?
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:32 AM   #3
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I'd really like to saimo and kas1e be interviewed before 2010 rolls out.

Btw, thanks for the podcast
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:17 AM   #4
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Enjoyed the podcast last night. Keep up the good work! Thanks.
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* OWB 1.11 for Morphos Released.
Is it just me or did this section come out totally botched?

Seriously guys, OS4 OWB is nowhere near the MorphOS version... I get the impression that no-one in the team has actually used both.

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Old 11-23-2010, 03:14 PM   #6
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I would like to see interviewed (in no particular order):-

Joens Schoenfeld (of Individual computers, developer of countless Amiga hardware such as the Indivision AGA/ECS, Catweasel, ACA 1230/630 Accelerators and many more)

Harry 'Piru' Sintonen (developer of WhichAmiga, Blizkick, cnet.device, and of course, MorphOS. Probably one of the most knowledgable technical Amiga people out there).

Peter 'Xeron' Gordon (author of many Amiga scene productions under his 'Mr. Tickle' pseudonym, Hivelytracker, and prolific Amiga OS4 developer - he used to guest on havok scene radio quite regularly and is a genuinely nice, very entertaining, guy)

I think they would make very interesting guests.
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Is it just me or did this section come out totally botched?

Seriously guys, OS4 OWB is nowhere near the MorphOS version... I get the impression that no-one in the team has actually used both.
I believe I actually admit this in this episode or in a previous episode as I have no machine capable of running OS 4 or MorphOS.
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Is it just me or did this section come out totally botched?

Seriously guys, OS4 OWB is nowhere near the MorphOS version... I get the impression that no-one in the team has actually used both.
I think I did comment that it was like "apples and oranges" on the show when asked if it is like the Amiga OS version. That was me trying to be as politically correct as possible. But you are right - I haven't used both and don't plan on it.

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I think I did comment that it was like "apples and oranges" on the show when asked if it is like the Amiga OS version. That was me trying to be as politically correct as possible. But you are right - I haven't used both and don't plan on it.
Sure, that's fine. What I don't understand is that how did it turn into this:

- Does version 1.11 how does that equate to the OS 4.0 version 3.20/3.30?
- Apples and oranges... Apples and oranges...
- So it literally does relate that it's that far behind?
- Yeah
- Okay
- Alright, alright
- You gotta get started somewhere
- ... I believe it's little bit behind...

So am I wrong to understand this in a way that just because the MorphOS OWB version number is smaller than OS4 OWB version you think that the OS4 version is better?

I hope I understood this conversation wrong. The MorphOS OWB beats the OS4 version in every way I can think of. It really is a complete browser with all the features you can expect from the browser. This unlike the OS4 version that never was supposed to be anything but simple compile of the OWB tree, and lacks even the basic features such as download manager, password manager, cookie manager, fastlinks, session support, content blocking and so on. MorphOS version even comes with comprehensive HTML5 video support, and has a flash plugin available.

Currently the MorphOS OWB is easily the best browser for any amigoid platform.

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Old 11-23-2010, 06:14 PM   #10
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Sure, that's fine. What I don't understand is that how did it turn into this:

- Does version 1.11 how does that equate to the OS 4.0 version 3.20/3.30?
- Apples and oranges... Apples and oranges...
- So it literally does relate that it's that far behind?
- Yeah
- Okay
- Alright, alright
- You gotta get started somewhere
- ... I believe it's little bit behind...

So am I wrong to understand this in a way that just because the MorphOS version number is smaller than OS4 OWB version you think that the OS4 version is better?

I hope I understood this conversation wrong.
It sounds like either you did or I most certainly did. Yikes. But what I said I must have assumed that the other guys caught my drift. <cough> I really must have 'spaced' on that one - and was probably doing another task at the same time. Honestly - shame on me for not picking up on the fact that nobody else was on the same page as me. If this was the case, I am a fool for nodding along oblivious.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:26 AM   #11
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For god sake nobody said the OS4 version was in any way superior to the MorphOS version, give the whole my browser is better than your brower thing a rest.
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I'd rather leave your deity out of this.

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nobody said the OS4 version was in any way superior to the MorphOS version
Well apparently my english isn't as good as I thought it was. I was fairly certain that it was implied that the MorphOS version 1.11 was inferior, and "a good start".

Go figure.
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It sounds like guy who was being interviewed thought version numbers had any relation to each others... so mistake was in considering OWB 1.11/MorphOS was inferior to OWB 3.40/OS4 because it had smaller version number.
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- Does version 1.11 how does that equate to the OS 4.0 version 3.20/3.30?
- Apples and oranges... Apples and oranges...
- So it literally does relate that it's that far behind?
- Yeah
- Okay
- Alright, alright
- You gotta get started somewhere
- ... I believe it's little bit behind...


I don't know how you prepare for your show, but perhaps a little research on the main talking points wouldn't hurt.
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I don't know how you prepare for your show, but perhaps a little research on the main talking points wouldn't hurt.
See comment #10. I certainly have egg on my face as I apparently was not paying attention to what was being asked. I feel rather foolish and there will certainly be some sort of clarification on the next show in a couple of weeks. I certainly do wish I was part of the audio editing process on that one.

/me runs and hides in a corner.

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