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Old 11-11-2010, 12:03 AM   #21
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I will probably buy one or wait for the 56mhz version.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:16 AM   #22
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Default Re: ACA 1230/28 Accelerator

Complete pricing including shipping for the ACA 1230/28 accelerator is as follows:

Accelerator including Shipping to USA/Canada/Mexico/Australia/NZ/Japan through www.amigakit.us is US $121.72

Accelerator including Shipping to Europe/Russia through www.amigakit.eu is EUR 105.79

Accelerator including Shipping to Norway/Switzerland through www.amigakit.eu is EUR 90.96

Accelerator including Shipping to UK through www.amigakit.co.uk is GBP 87.94
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:31 AM   #23
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nice to see new hardware but Jens how come you could'nt get at least 50 Mhz out of this modern board
He's working on a 56 mhz option.

As it seems, this one will actually be a bit snappier than a "real" 28 mhz board, due to using faster RAM.
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:37 PM   #24
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I agree with you! min. 030 accelerator these days should be 50mhz and have mmu/fpu... ;/




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Old 11-11-2010, 12:41 PM   #25
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I agree with you! min. 030 accelerator these days should be 50mhz and have mmu/fpu... ;/
This card is mostly meant as a memory card, not a CPU card. It's just that in order to have more than 8MB RAM and avoid problems with PCMCIA slot, a different CPU is needed. The EC030 is the most common and cheapest one.
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This card is mostly meant as a memory card, not a CPU card. It's just that in order to have more than 8MB RAM and avoid problems with PCMCIA slot, a different CPU is needed. The EC030 is the most common and cheapest one.
That makes sense both technically and in terms of the market. Have you seen the lack of 1200 memory cards on the market and the prices they reach when they are available on eBay etc. The addition of fastmem to the system makes more difference than most people would think too
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:28 PM   #27
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It will be fun to see the crazy ebay prices take a drop.
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I agree with you! min. 030 accelerator these days should be 50mhz and have mmu/fpu... ;/
His view from the EAB threads have been that there's almost no point in the MMU / FPU nowadays. If you do graphics work, you'll want an 060 or emulation anyways, and games don't generally care about it.

At 28 mhz, it'll give a good speed boost to most classic amiga stuff, and the extra fast ram is very handy.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:46 PM   #29
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Default Re: ACA 1230/28 Accelerator

The Ebay prices will drop for a while, but in a few months time when we are sold out of the new accelerators, they will probably be on Ebay as a second hand item for double/treble the price we sold them for originally.

We have seen the same thing happen with Indivisions and I expect our ZorRAM will go the same route.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:48 PM   #30
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Default Re: ACA 1230/28 Accelerator

Cannot wait for the A600 board, it looks like a really neat piece of engineering reviewing your site and the picture on it - the price is very competitive as well considering the development that has gone in - especially considering the second hand prices of 630 boards..!

I think the A1200 is also spot on for the money as well, maybe not as beefy as some might have hoped, but for the money I think it is spot on

And being able to buy a accelerator for an Amiga in the year 2010 - incredible!!

Really excited
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The Ebay prices will drop for a while, but in a few months time when we are sold out of the new accelerators, they will probably be on Ebay as a second hand item for double/treble the price we sold them for originally.

We have seen the same thing happen with Indivisions and I expect our ZorRAM will go the same route.
Theres obviously demand, why don't you/Jens make more? Or I guess the real question should be why does it take so long to make a new batch and in such an apparently small quantity?

Ive never read an explanation for this so I look forward to your reply
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Theres obviously demand, why don't you/Jens make more? Or I guess the real question should be why does it take so long to make a new batch and in such an apparently small quantity?

Ive never read an explanation for this so I look forward to your reply
Well they have to pay up-front to produce these, so they probably can't afford huge outlays of money. Once the money comes in from sales of the first batch, they can then invest that into the 2nd batch
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Edit: wow, almost a carbon copy of the post above

My guess is that it's such a gamble.

If they get stuck with them due to lack of sales or if flaws are found in the field, it's a huge investment to lose.

It could make the project a loss very easily.

Also, it costs a lot to get a batch made in the first place. I doubt they have the cash on hand.

The first batch has to come back with profit, then they have to order a second batch and be put in the queue as a small order that gets bumped back for other bigger orders.

I'm sure it's a big scary hassle overall.
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It all comes down to finance. As we sell items to the Amiga Community, we generate revenue which then goes straight back into financing our next Amiga projects, so we are limited financially by the revenues coming in from orders.

Please keep in mind that we only sell to the Amiga market. In turn Individual Computers are reliant on us selling their products before that revenue can be re-invested into new developments.

Financially we have to spread ourselves thinly to fulfill lots of wishes for users of A500, A600, A1200 as well as Big Box Amigas. Also investing into next generation projects such as the forthcoming AmigaOS 4.1 Classic and SAM / X1000.
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Thanks for the explanations guys That all makes sense, if I had a load of money I could invest in you I probably would as you do the Amiga community a HUGE service
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It all comes down to finance. As we sell items to the Amiga Community, we generate revenue which then goes straight back into financing our next Amiga projects, so we are limited financially by the revenues coming in from orders.

Please keep in mind that we only sell to the Amiga market. In turn Individual Computers are reliant on us selling their products before that revenue can be re-invested into new developments.

Financially we have to spread ourselves thinly to fulfill lots of wishes for users of A500, A600, A1200 as well as Big Box Amigas. Also investing into next generation projects such as the forthcoming AmigaOS 4.1 Classic and SAM / X1000.
Congrats on the low price!! That was not what I was expecting.
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It all comes down to finance. As we sell items to the Amiga Community, we generate revenue which then goes straight back into financing our next Amiga projects, so we are limited financially by the revenues coming in from orders.

Please keep in mind that we only sell to the Amiga market. In turn Individual Computers are reliant on us selling their products before that revenue can be re-invested into new developments.

Financially we have to spread ourselves thinly to fulfill lots of wishes for users of A500, A600, A1200 as well as Big Box Amigas. Also investing into next generation projects such as the forthcoming AmigaOS 4.1 Classic and SAM / X1000.
So when Cardiff City FC win the Championship next year and get promoted to the Premier League then can we expect their football shirts to be sponsored by "AmigaKit.com"?



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Outstanding price and product, just what was needed to invigorate some new life back into the classic community.

I'm very much looking forward to the 600 version
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:-D Thats an idea - our offices are quite close to the new stadium (about 3 miles away). Maybe not though: it brings back some memories of another company in recent times announcing sponsorship of a local sports arena. We know how that ended up..

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Thanks, all the technical plaudits should go to Jens of course for this product. He has literally squeezed every MIP he could out of the design.
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:-D Thats an idea - our offices are quite close to the new stadium (about 3 miles away). Maybe not though: it brings back some memories of another company in recent times announcing sponsorship of a local sports arena. We know how that ended up..
LOL. Yeah, I flew to the UK to watch the home leg of the Leicester City play-off last season and desperately wanted to drop in your location and see what hardware you could tempt me with, unfortunately I didn't have the time. Hopefully this season will be different and I can fly over for a week or two instead of just a couple of days...
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