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[SysAdmin]

IceFileSystem 1.13 released for MorphOS.

IceFileSystem is a 64bit disk filesystem supporting a high number of useful features:

64bit file/partition/extent sizes (actually very close to 2^63 bytes).
No self imposed fragmentation of large files unless there is not enough contigious space available.



All metadata on disk is checksummed. This means any errors on disk will be detected a lot quicker.

Meta level jornalling. Journalling makes operations to disk atomic.

Hardlinks (directory and file), softlinks, notification, examine all, record locking,
file comments. Fully supported.

Supports almost any 2^x media sector sizes. Filesystem layout on disk is not dependant on a specific underlying sector size.
Filesystem may however place data on disk so that it is optimal for the sector size used.

Filesystem does not get slower for larger partitions (scales very well), or when heavily fragmented.

No limit in # of files/dirs in partition/dirs.

Handles removable media.

Supports optional recycle dir.

Supports automatically truncated log files and optional filesystem logfile.

Wastes only 128k (and preallocates another 128k for meta space) for filesystem administration data, regardless of partition size.

Dynamic handling of cache memory. Memory is given back (progressivly) to system when not used.

More information via the link below

http://blubbedev.net/icefs

[kolla]

Just what the world need, another custom, proprietary, non-free filesystem that need exotic hardware and operating system for data retrieval. Congrats with that.

[LoadWB]

How many FSs are there for MorphOS? And if this one is as good as it says, why not? A lot of people bought PFS and still swear by it. So long as I keep backups, I do not see file recovery being an issue if my exotic PPC MacMini takes a nose dive.

Granted, SFS spans OS3, OS4, and MorphOS. I assume they are compatible as well. But I find that I have been using smb-handler to keep the majority of stuff on a SMB share, anyway. Of course, I have not tried running YAM across the network, so there is some concern there -- but again, backups, right mate?

[itix]

Originally Posted by kolla

Just what the world need, another custom, proprietary, non-free filesystem that need exotic hardware and operating system for data retrieval. Congrats with that.

If you think Mac hardware is exotic I cant help you =P And of course nobody is forcing you to use it. You can use exotic SFS or FFS supported nowhere but on exotic hardware and operating system for data retrieval. Non-Amiga filesystems are not often suitable for Amiga use due to lack of filecomments, protection bits or case insensitivity.

[itix]

Originally Posted by LoadWB

How many FSs are there for MorphOS? And if this one is as good as it says, why not? A lot of people bought PFS and still swear by it.

PFS, SFS, FFS, EXT2, NTFS, SgiXFS, HFS, FAT and now IceFS.

[pVC]

Originally Posted by kolla

Just what the world need, another custom, proprietary, non-free filesystem that need exotic hardware and operating system for data retrieval. Congrats with that.

Yes, 64bit RDB compliant and bootable filesystem is just what we were missing and everyone has been waiting for since the data got big. Would love to get better option for old SFS and PFS etc. Ext2/3, NTFS etc are too alien for amigaish systems..

[Krashan]

Originally Posted by kolla

Just what the world need

I do not care much what world needs. What MorphOS users need is more interesting.

[Boot_WB]

Originally Posted by itix

PFS, SFS, FFS, EXT2, NTFS, SgiXFS, HFS, FAT and now IceFS.

Hey don't forget poor old OFS ;-)

(or is that not supported under MorphOS - can't say I've tried to use it).

[kolla]

Just a few notes then
* One can now store more data than it is comfortable to make backups of on a morphos machine, yay
* If said machine has a malfunction one can not comfortably retrieve the data on another machine, since that machine also would have to be one with registered morphos and icefs on (or, you can do copying for 30 minutes, then reboot, continue etc. if you really need to)
* The filesystem is not mountable or anything from any other OS (as of yet anyhow, when/what and under what iicense is the author "open" to develop for?)
* To be released as "Freeware" after 300 registered users, whatever that means;
- never to be released (due to never reaching the 300 mark)
- eventually released and abandoned, no support, bugfixes etc.
- eventually released and with sources after the 300 mark, or despite not reaching it
- freeware binary, but no sources, still abandoned, no support etc

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

[HammerD]

Originally Posted by kolla

Just a few notes then
* One can now store more data than it is comfortable to make backups of on a morphos machine, yay
* If said machine has a malfunction one can not comfortably retrieve the data on another machine, since that machine also would have to be one with registered morphos and icefs on (or, you can do copying for 30 minutes, then reboot, continue etc. if you really need to)
* The filesystem is not mountable or anything from any other OS (as of yet anyhow, when/what and under what iicense is the author "open" to develop for?)
* To be released as "Freeware" after 300 registered users, whatever that means;
- never to be released (due to never reaching the 300 mark)
- eventually released and abandoned, no support, bugfixes etc.
- eventually released and with sources after the 300 mark, or despite not reaching it
- freeware binary, but no sources, still abandoned, no support etc

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

You could make it 299 until freeware ;-)

[kolla]

Originally Posted by itix

PFS, SFS, FFS, EXT2, NTFS, SgiXFS, HFS, FAT and now IceFS.

And all of the above, with one exception, can be read using any random PC, mac or whatever without much cost or hassle involved.

[HammerD]

Originally Posted by kolla

And all of the above, with one exception, can be read using any random PC, mac or whatever without much cost or hassle involved.

Yes, but I doubt support came overnight for this. Give it some time, young padawan learner Patience!

[Golem!dk]

Originally Posted by kolla

Just a few notes then
* One can now store more data than it is comfortable to make backups of on a morphos machine, yay

Nothing changed here.

* If said machine has a malfunction one can not comfortably retrieve the data on another machine, since that machine also would have to be one with registered morphos and icefs on (or, you can do copying for 30 minutes, then reboot, continue etc. if you really need to)

You are not even trying, so boring.

* The filesystem is not mountable or anything from any other OS (as of yet anyhow, when/what and under what iicense is the author "open" to develop for?)

Good thing you are smart about your backups.

* To be released as "Freeware" after 300 registered users, whatever that means;
- never to be released (due to never reaching the 300 mark)
- eventually released and abandoned, no support, bugfixes etc.
- eventually released and with sources after the 300 mark, or despite not reaching it
- freeware binary, but no sources, still abandoned, no support etc

It will be interesting to see how this works out.

And you didn't even read the original post, but don't let that get in the way of your usual whining.
(this was the announcement of the release, you can download it now)

Try harder next time.

[kolla]

Why are you even replying? I'm not here for a meta discussion about how one is not allowed to question or criticise anything in the MorphOS camp - this is about a new filesystem and what consequences this new filesystem poses for the amiga platforms. As for "to be released", please read more carefully, I was not writing about this release, I was writing about it being released as "freeware".

[Golem!dk]

Originally Posted by kolla

Why are you even replying? I'm not here for a meta discussion about how one is not allowed to question or criticise anything in the MorphOS camp

I see, and how does thise relate to the discussion at hand?

- this is about a new filesystem and what consequences this new filesystem poses for the amiga platforms.

Yes, I responded to that.

As for "to be released", please read more carefully, I was not writing about this release, I was writing about it being released as "freeware".

Yes, very important right now, I can see that... seems 19 people registered so far.