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Old 05-28-2010, 07:57 AM   #21
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I've been in contact with Commodore's owner Barry Altman. He just got back from China and is jet-lagged.
Over the last month or so we've been discussing AROS as a standard boot option.
I shot him an e-mail just before and I am surprised I already got a reply.

I can confirm that the Invictus WILL HAVE wireless HDMI. VERY COOL!!

The specs are actually higher than the ASUS eee PC, which apparently has difficulty even running Xp.

He says the Commodore trademark deal is a mere couple of weeks away. Only got to decide on various options. Not a matter of IF but WHEN now.

I have been given permission to quote this part of his e-mail.
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Things are progressing at a rapid rate, and the Commodore line will launch shortly, with all the new products, including the Atom/Nvidea based INVICTUS, and many more surprises to follow.
Over the last couple of weeks he has shared with me the immense amount of work that goes into getting all this stuff done. Its much more than what you think. There's also a lot more going on that I can't divulge. The best is yet to come.
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Old 05-28-2010, 08:11 AM   #22
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I was kind of wondering how long it would take this idiot to rebrand this computer, since he's already got the cybernet and another all in one keyboard on his site.
With all due respect Steve.... Everything you've said in this post is complete and utter rubbish.
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I love the hypeup and make believe nonsense on the website. I wonder how long it will be until commodore international or whoever owns the trademark sues him and shuts him down.
Hype up? Hype up? On their own website....Heaven forbid, they would try to sell a product.
Edit: Forgot to comment on trademark.
The owner says the Commodore trademark deal is a mere couple of weeks away. Only got to decide on various options. Not a matter of IF but WHEN now.

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Why buy this thing from this joker? Just to get a commodore sticker you stick on yourself? Your kidding right?
Congratulations! You are runner up troll of the year.
The logo is already affixed to the machine as you would expect of classic Commodore machines.
Some of the pre-orders went out without them, that is all.
I don't know why you are getting you knickers in a knot over this.
Why is this making you so angry that you need to lash out and call people idiots?

I mean what did you expect a Commodore company to do? This is the first bunch of products. If you don't like any of the first generation of products, then don't buy one. Others will, and then you will see some unique product development more to your tastes. It might not be exactly what YOU want now, but the product line will evolve.
Is it too much to ask for a fair go? Maybe that's very Australian of me. ;-)

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Old 05-28-2010, 08:11 AM   #23
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the internal 5-inch touchscreen on the right shuts off when an external monitor is connected
How completely lame. I'd hope they're wrong about that.

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This is the first bunch of products. If you don't like any of the first generation of products, then don't buy one.
Someone else's products! Unless he's selling at the same cost or less than the original vendor, it's a very silly idea to pay a higher price for a Commodore sticker.

Throwing a free OS onto a machine doesn't make the product original.
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Old 05-28-2010, 08:24 AM   #24
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Now that's more like it!!!!!!

I don't have specs for you yet.
(watch this space)
Commodore USA

But it is probably the same specs as what it looks like. :-D

I can confirm that it is ATOM/nvidia based
INVICTUS is the latin word for "Invincible".
It comes in silver too. It also has a stylus.
I do not know if it features wireless wiBand HDMI. I'll see if I can find out.
What makes this anything other than a limp wristed Atom based piece of crap inferior to a 2005 Pentium M laptop with the LCD screen/lid removed?

Will it even be able to play Battlefield 2 for PC from 2005 @ SXGA in medium detail? Nope.

So the answer is nothing

I bought an Amiga and a C64 because they were cutting edge technology, this is basically only suitable for the facebook/MSN/Youtube etc. Give me a Dell D810 laptop with 2.1ghz Pentium M II and 128mb ATI x600 with the lid missing for 50 bucks any day. Such a 5 year old machine would annihilate this thing on any test you care to run.

However if your current doorstop is a bit worn out and you don't want the door handles damaging your newly plastered walls on windy days.................
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Old 05-28-2010, 08:27 AM   #25
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How completely lame. I'd hope they're wrong about that.



Someone else's products! Unless he's selling at the same cost or less than the original vendor, it's a very silly idea to pay a higher price for a Commodore sticker.

Throwing a free OS onto a machine doesn't make the product original.
Well, Eyetech did the same with Teron mobos, was that a bad thing?

Edit: And then the cost of OS4, lets' not forget that one either.
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What free OS was that, that wouldn't run on any other clone lying around?

Exactly.
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Someone else's products! Unless he's selling at the same cost or less than the original vendor, it's a very silly idea to pay a higher price for a Commodore sticker.
Hey! Re-branding OEM PCs worked really well for Commodore companies of the past...

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2621

Erm!
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I mean what did you expect a Commodore company to do?
Are you sure you want to know?
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Someone else's products! Unless he's selling at the same cost or less than the original vendor, it's a very silly idea to pay a higher price for a Commodore sticker.
You really make me laugh. I suggest you remove all brand products from your possession.
You'd probably end up naked. You pay more for a brand product. Get over it.
Hell, why don't you go wear that line out on the AmigaOne fans.
At least it's not CommodoreOne. Sheesh.
At least they can get the proper name of the brand.
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Throwing a free OS onto a machine doesn't make the product original.
Why do you want to pay for Windows for? Losing Windows is a good thing.
It comes with Ubuntu now.... Yeah, it's been done before... sure... but it's hardly a wide spread practice. Isn't that different enough for you.
Ok, with a bit of luck we'll get AROS on it, and maybe some emulation options. We'll see.
You can even install MacOSX on their Commodore Phoenix. Which I hope to demonstrate when mine finally arrives. Yeah, you can do that on MSI machines. But it is still different.
There is probably even going to be an OS called Comodo which is a vastly simpler OS for young children or seniors.
Hell... What has Commodore got to do?
Do you want ChomeOS? I mean really?
Do you want something like Bumptop?
What would you like to see on this machine?
Tell me and I'll see if I can make it happen.
The owner is open to all suggestions.
We, the Commodore fans, can make this what we want!
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What makes this anything other than a limp wristed Atom based piece of crap inferior to a 2005 Pentium M laptop with the LCD screen/lid removed?

Will it even be able to play Battlefield 2 for PC from 2005 @ SXGA in medium detail? Nope.

So the answer is nothing

I bought an Amiga and a C64 because they were cutting edge technology, this is basically only suitable for the facebook/MSN/Youtube etc. Give me a Dell D810 laptop with 2.1ghz Pentium M II and 128mb ATI x600 with the lid missing for 50 bucks any day. Such a 5 year old machine would annihilate this thing on any test you care to run.

However if your current doorstop is a bit worn out and you don't want the door handles damaging your newly plastered walls on windy days.................
1. The Invictus comes with the Nvidia ION chipset which it is said will revolutionise gaming on these small devices. With wireless HDMI, you won't even need to have it plugged into your HDMI TV.

"Will it even be able to play Battlefield 2 for PC from 2005 @ SXGA in medium detail? Nope."
2. I bet you it will. And on your couch in your living room. And who knows, you might even be able to put keyboard game shortcuts on the touch screen.

3. If you think these specs are too low for you.....There's always the Commodore Phoenix, with the highend version being a 3.4 Ghz Quad Core. If you wait until Christmas you might even see an i7 version. That's why there's a range of Commodore machines at different specifications and price points. Honestly. Next you'll begrudge a Toyota Corolla for not being an F1 car!
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Hey! Re-branding OEM PCs worked really well for Commodore companies of the past...

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2621

Erm!
Isn't it funny. A lot of you are lamenting the re-branding OEM PCs as very un-Commodore, and then you realise Commodore actually did that themselves.
This practice isn't what killed Commodore either.
In 2010, this really is however, the only option available.

Did you expect a new Commodore company to come up with a console that can compete with multi-billion dollar companies like Sony and MS? Commodore couldn't even do that with their 2 console efforts.
Did you expect a new Commodore company to come up with revolutionary graphics technology that can compete with multi-billion dollar companies like ATI and nVidia?
Yeah, AGA was great.

What you are seeing is surely what the Commodore of old would have done anyway. Computers are a commodity. Why would you begrudge someone for wanting something a little different, even if it is not rational choice in your eyes.

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To paraphrase a saying from when commodore still had (a tiny bit) of relevency, "It's the software, stupid!"

It would be ridiculously easy to make some money if you had the commodore name and a bit of venture capital, but this is not the way to do it.
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To paraphrase a saying from when commodore still had (a tiny bit) of relevency, "It's the software, stupid!"

It would be ridiculously easy to make some money if you had the commodore name and a bit of venture capital, but this is not the way to do it.
This is true, although I would like to make a tiny plea that it was also the styling. Maybe I'm weird, but I find the styling of the Amigas (heck, even the VIC and C64) to be sexy .

Now if you'll excuse me, I think I hear the lovely men in white jackets downstairs. I think I'll go get them some tea
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You really make me laugh. I suggest you remove all brand products from your possession.
You'd probably end up naked. You pay more for a brand product. Get over it.
Hell, why don't you go wear that line out on the AmigaOne fans.
At least it's not CommodoreOne. Sheesh.
At least they can get the proper name of the brand.
You laugh when you should cry. The only thing sadder than trying to capitalize on an old brand name by reselling hardware people can buy themselves cheaper is supporting the effort. People will pay more for a brand name product if it has some qualities the cheaper options don't, so far this "Commodore" hasn't shown to offer anything of the sort, and them stamping C= a logo on something means about as much as me stamping one on something. The AmigaOne, while no huge commercial success, had the fact that it was a means to an end going for it, it was required hardware to run OS4. Cheaper, better PCs can be had than these rebranded "Commodore" units, and do the same thing.

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It comes with Ubuntu now.... Yeah, it's been done before... sure... but it's hardly a wide spread practice. Isn't that different enough for you.
No, it isn't. Ubuntu can be installed in about 45 minutes by most anyone who knows how to turn a computer on these days.

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Ok, with a bit of luck we'll get AROS on it, and maybe some emulation options. We'll see.
Luck? These are more free, easy to do things that work everywhere. No special C= logo needed!

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You can even install MacOSX on their Commodore Phoenix. Which I hope to demonstrate when mine finally arrives. Yeah, you can do that on MSI machines. But it is still different.
No, it isn't.

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There is probably even going to be an OS called Comodo which is a vastly simpler OS for young children or seniors.
Let me guess, another version of Ubuntu with some big pretty icons. Nothing new here either.

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The owner is open to all suggestions.
Give it up, the whole thing smells like failure.

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We, the Commodore fans, can make this what we want!
The Commodore fans just love to see their brand that died in 1994 stamped on new and unoriginal products.
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To paraphrase a saying from when commodore still had (a tiny bit) of relevency, "It's the software, stupid!"
You may find that the new Commodore machines will actually pay homage to the Commodore software legacy some time soon. That's what I am involved in facilitating right now. Otherwise it will be like Elvis coming back from the dead and singing only Abba songs.
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No, I agree completely. In fact, my problem with these latest 'products' isn't the internals, it's the externals and the software.

Two brilliant case studies for what Commodore needs to do are already out in the market place and do quite well: the 'New Beetle' and the 'new MINI'. Both pay massive amounts of homage to the original, iconic product, while still managing to modernize the brand.

They need to limit themselves to one primary sku, and actually hire a designer to create a new case for it that looks cool, retro, and most importantly, like a Commodore. Also, beige is the new black. Embrace it.

I'd also hire some software engineers. I think you could easily get away using linux or BSD as the base for the OS (Darwin?!), but you have to write a custom GUI for it that also manages to look modern yet retro. You might even be able to get away with using a modified version of something like Haiku on it. I definatly would NOT ship it with Windows. Windows should be a boot camp sort of option. It's going to be a niche market one way or the other to begin with, so why not embrace that? From the software side, I'd be trying to move towards an Apple model.

Built-in emulation would be a given, but also get some guys to re-write and modernize some classic games from the C64 and include them with the system.

Finally you need marketing, marketing, marketing, marketing. Reaching out to a bunch of guys on an Amiga retro website is easy. You need to convince the 30-40 year olds who played with commodores when they were kids but who haven't thought about commodore in 20 years that this is the machine that can take them back to a time when computers were for fun, not spreadsheets.

...oh, you also need to keep this less than $500 a unit.
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Just because you don't get it doesn't mean other people wont.
Yes, people can find and purchase whatever obscure machines they want.
If they can find these machines elsewhere they should go for it.
If the brand means nothing to them, they can shop elsewhere too.
No-one is forcing anyone to buy anything. But for those that want one, here it is.

In terms of software there is the matter of convenience as well which you seem to neglect. This is pitched at a more mainstream audience that would prefer everything to work out of the box. You're a geek and discerning and you probably want to do everything yourself. Next, I'll probably hear you can put a machine together like this out of parts strewn about in your bedroom. Well others aren't interested in that. I dare say the majority of computer purchasers aren't interested in that either.
Why you feel the urge to stomp on this, when this represents the ONLY chance of a Commodore comeback. I really don't know. (sigh)
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1. The Invictus comes with the Nvidia ION chipset which it is said will revolutionise gaming on these small devices. With wireless HDMI, you won't even need to have it plugged into your HDMI TV.

"Will it even be able to play Battlefield 2 for PC from 2005 @ SXGA in medium detail? Nope."
2. I bet you it will. And on your couch in your living room. And who knows, you might even be able to put keyboard game shortcuts on the touch screen.

3. If you think these specs are too low for you.....There's always the Commodore Phoenix, with the highend version being a 3.4 Ghz Quad Core. If you wait until Christmas you might even see an i7 version. That's why there's a range of Commodore machines at different specifications and price points. Honestly. Next you'll begrudge a Toyota Corolla for not being an F1 car!
Hmmm the similar Atom machine that this is compared to barely runs XP, an OS that runs fine on a 600mhz PIII and yet we have such enthusiasm.

1. Great, wireless HDMI for a machine that will struggle to store and playback 1080p video on the plasma/LCD. And the whole keyboard on lap and surf the web thing doesn't work anyway. Nothing people haven't tried for years via cordless keyboards and shuttle PC under the TV.

2. Yes I know it has ION but even if your geometry set up engine was not lumbered with an Atom it's still doubtful it would manage one of the most advanced DX9.3c engines at 30+ fps in SXGA 32bit colour from 2005. In fact there are only two laptops sold brand new today that can run these games, let alone cut down Atom CPU'd items.

3. My issue is it's not a 'Commodore' as it is nothing technically unique resulting in games a generation ahead of the competition. I don't need to pay 300% of parts prices to have a C= logo on my PC. Some realistic ideas on the off-chance someone from 'Commodore' reads this place...

C64 DTV relaunched with SD card slot.
C64 DTV motherboard in a 1:2 scale C64/C64C casing with BASIC built in and tape & disk ports.
As above but with optional hinged LCD 7" screen in the style of the Commodore LCD machine.
MP3 player full of SID tunes or MODs (in MP3 format).
Media player with good sized LCD and built in C64 emulator for a C64-a-like PSP machine.

All the above are possible, there is just no effort or imagination at all. A Commodore badge <> something I will automatically buy. Let's face it facebook/twitter addicts who buy this kind of low end CPU stuff forgot Commodore 15(+) years ago so the branding isn't going to help them much.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04...ame_kerfuffle/

This is just lame. Avoid.

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You're being used. I'd seriously reconsider dealing with this Altman guy.

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This is pitched at a more mainstream audience that would prefer everything to work out of the box.
Mainstream audience doesn't care about AROS, UAE, or C64 emulation either for the most part, I'd wager, which only leaves the main OS and apps. Mainstream, again, doesn't really want Linux when all their friends have Microsoft. Honestly, I'd say the Commodore Gaming effort had more of a shot than this one, if only for the fact they had a set market they were aiming towards. This incarnation just seems to like picking odd looking hardware to stick a Commodore logo on and hopes that's enough to sell it.

Speaking of AROS and the various emulation packages, which have been developed and offered for free by the community, it would seem unfair to the developers to use these as selling points on a commercial system, and essentially profit from someone else's hard work, without offering them something. Of course, I can't speak for those respective communities, but it just seems like more reliance on other peoples' names and work to sell mundane product.
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