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[B00tDisk]

"Old Mac" hardware any older than, say, 2004ish is going to be cripplingly slow. A Performa 5200 (widely regarded as the worst powermac made) runs at about the speed of a Pentium 100.

The best use for Apple hardware that old is, in order: recycling common parts (drives, RAM, PCI cards), stripping out the 603 CPUs for BPPC/CS repair and flogging the remains off on eBay.

[Amigamia]

Hello everyone, I am not a MAC expert but I have been trying to look around for a suitable one to possibly install MorphOS on it. I came across someone who is selling an Apple Quicksilver Power Mac G4 with 867 MHz and has 1.128 GB RAM. OS X 10.5 a DVD burner. Is this a good machine for $75? Less? What's it worth? Is it good for MorphOS?

[recidivist]

Piru:
I haven't the slightest;I suppose reverse engineering?
Notice I never suggested that I have the knowledge ,expertise,or anything to do ports.
There are a few who go to extremes just to prove older hardware CAN do tasks either not envisioned or not implemented during the time such computers were new.
Sure commercial developers get to play with the new hardware months before it hits the stores but the hobbyist programmers had to wait,and often learn new tricks in programming;the dedicated hobbyist seldom counts the time spent in finding how to push performance,while his counterpart who is being paid must justify hours spent.

Owners of pre-G4 Mac might as well simply use the latest available MacOS release that works on their computer (or the latest linux available) and the best programs released for that computer during its commercially useful life-those programs that cost $500 to run on that $3500 Mac can both be found for pennies on the $ now.

Some people dumped classic Amiga hardware when it became commercially obsolete : as in the truckload of Amiga 4000s and Video Toasters I missed out on by minutes about 10 years ago.Seller accepted $100 just to get rid of that old stuff.
Businessmen depriciate the equipment and move on; it is only the hobbyists who see value in old cars,old computers,cancelled stamps,etc.

[zylesea]

Originally Posted by Amigamia

Hello everyone, I am not a MAC expert but I have been trying to look around for a suitable one to possibly install MorphOS on it. I came across someone who is selling an Apple Quicksilver Power Mac G4 with 867 MHz and has 1.128 GB RAM. OS X 10.5 a DVD burner. Is this a good machine for $75? Less? What's it worth? Is it good for MorphOS?

The price seems fine for me - there's plenty RAM and OS X 10.5. MorphOS will probably run nice on that maschine, but the current release comes with support for Mac mini G4 only. The cpu speed would be fine for most things.
It is not confirmed when the release with support for the PowerMac G4 actually will arrive.


According thread on morphzone.org.
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/new...er=1&start=200

[haywirepc]

I'm not sure this can be done with an older mac, but... On an older pc
I installed windows xp, then did some work to remove the windows logon and logoff screens and so on. I replaced the windows shell with winuae.

Essentially when you turn it on,the machine appears to boot straight into amiga os3.9.

Perhaps you could do something similar, have mac os boot straight into eau and amiga os3.9? I'm not a mac person so I don't know if this is possible. If someone wants to send me an older mac, I can give it a a
try and report my results.

Steven

[recidivist]

If our friends at Cloanto could make an Amiga Forever for Apple that works as well as their AF for Windows ,I think it would sell .
If someone was going to use an older Mac as their Amiga emulator or stand-in then also it might make sense to "freeze" the MacOS enviroment ;that is specify EXACTLY which version of MacOS be running in order to limit the programming variables.

Maybe Hyperion and Acube should contact the Chinese factories that made some of the last Commodore and Amiga hardware?
Wonder what it would cost for a new run of A1200s ? Might want to leave out the floppy drive to cut costs and just use ADF.Think yhe would sell a 1000 ?

[Piru]

Originally Posted by recidivist

Maybe Hyperion and Acube should contact the Chinese factories that made some of the last Commodore and Amiga hardware?

Reality check: It was 15 years ago. The factories are long gone. Not to mention the chip production methods no longer being used at all.

[ElPolloDiabl]

Check out the Minimig with AGA thread if you want a new A1200. It looks like he is going to offer all the extras to make it A1200 replacement with networking and floppy disk option. See if he is still taking preorders.