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Old 02-08-2010, 04:55 PM   #1
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Default A McBill era Amiga history, long version
I sighted this link on Moobunny. Strap yourself in, it is a long read!

http://sites.google.com/site/freeamiga/
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Old 02-08-2010, 05:22 PM   #2
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I sighted this link on Moobunny. Strap yourself in, it is a long read!

http://sites.google.com/site/freeamiga/
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:02 PM   #3
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After reading such an extensive and in parts interesting text, is it correct to conclude that today the AmigaOS 3.1 copyright holder is non existant? Meaning AmigaOS 3.1 and before are actually abbandonware per se.

So actually there is no proof of ownership or copyright holder, only valid licenses that some few companies have since the time of Commodore.

I will be glad if someone could correct me
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:04 PM   #4
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That would have to be The MagicM and Argo. They seem to be our legal scholars.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:13 PM   #5
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After reading such an extensive and in parts interesting text, is it correct to conclude that today the AmigaOS 3.1 copyright holder is non existant? Meaning AmigaOS 3.1 and before are actually abbandonware per se.

So actually there is no proof of ownership or copyright holder, only valid licenses that some few companies have since the time of Commodore.

I will be glad if someone could correct me
That is a good question, one that has not been properly answered since the demise of Escom.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:23 PM   #6
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Eh... who cares, share and enjoy - seriously, let those who claim ownership stand forth (if they dare, heh).

And yes, I just read the entire thing - great page, great effort, could make a half decent documentary.
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:17 PM   #7
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Default Re: A McBill era Amiga history, long version
Interesting read,

If someone has a copy of os3.x source code and you email it to me, I would be happy to host it for all to download, and let Silly Billy try and sue me, he can't afford a pen to fill out a legal form let alone a lawyer.

I'm surprised its never been leaked before now. Could do the amiga fans a world of good to take it back from silly billy, who has done exactly nothing with it, and can not even prove he owns it.

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Old 02-08-2010, 07:38 PM   #8
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Appearantly Hyperion and Fr...friends, are the ones that sit with OS3.1 sources at this point.

Anyways, sources are not that important as getting rid of the "piracy" stigma that comes with copying around classic OS and kickstarts for use with UAE, minimig or whatever. I personally have no track of how many legal copies I have of the various AmigaOS incarnations, or how many kickstarts or kickstart files I have, or even where I have them. I also have at least a couple of OS3.5 CDs that also come with 3.1, and a handfull of OS3.9 CDs that came with OS3.5. Some of those CDs are quite shady looking even though they no doubt are original. The last few times I bought kickstarts from "well known and reputed amiga dealers", I noticed that EPROMS were used - hardly originals. Not to mention all the magazine CDs that came more or less with full OS3.1, and likewise CD32 and CDTV CDs that also came with full OS install on CD.

I suppose it's time I just put what I have on my website already, just to see who will jump up and claim moral highground, or worse... ownership (hah!).
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:36 PM   #9
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Am I reading that right? Now ESCOM's ownership of the OS is in dispute? Unbelievable...
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:46 PM   #10
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Sure they do
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:51 PM   #11
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Sure they do
Sigh. I'm getting really sick of these shell corporations that buy a defunct brandname and then use it to do something barely tangentially related to the original company.

How strange that all of the Amiga's "owners" are prime examples these days...
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:20 PM   #12
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Am I reading that right? Now ESCOM's ownership of the OS is in dispute? Unbelievable...
Actually I vaguely remember this being discussed in the 90's. There were court documents posted back then, but I don't speak German.
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:14 AM   #13
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For all their faults, at least Commodore actually ran some sort of business, wrote software and produced computers.
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:49 AM   #14
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Quite interesting reading actually
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Old 02-09-2010, 03:10 AM   #15
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So where is the source of Workbench3.1? I thought that AROS and MorphOS where based on Workbench3.1 and that therefore these projects had the source code available! or not?

I am mostly referring to this diagram:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...and_clones.svg
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