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Old 09-23-2009, 03:50 AM   #1
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Default Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?

Hi,

with Indivision ECS in production now, there's only one machine left that cannot take advantage of a modern flickerfixer: The A4000T.

I have gotten a few requests, but nothing that would justify a production run at the moment. Space in the machine is considerably smaller, so parts of the product need to be re-designed. Features will stay exactly the same as with Indivision AGA for 1200/4000D/CD32.

I already started asking in a German forum; I'd need at least 150 pre-orders to justify a production run. If this kind of pre-order can be collected before the end of october, we might have the product under the xmas tree. Since 4000T's have been sold a lot in the US, I'm hoping for more positive results from this forum.

I already heard that 130,- EUR is almost "the hard upper limit" for the price; only a few people are willing to pay more. With the current exchange rate, that's a little over 190 USD.

Let me know what you think - and how many you'd buy!

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Old 09-23-2009, 04:31 AM   #2
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Default Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?

I'd buy one for sure, maybe two!
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:40 AM   #3
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Default Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?

Hi Jens

I want one (I just have one A4000T).

I also have the A1200 and A4000 versions and these work great.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:14 AM   #4
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Default Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?

I'd be interested in one.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:23 AM   #5
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Default Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?

We would buy one as long as it works fine with the Video Toaster 4000 and the Flyer.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:27 AM   #6
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Default Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?

Jens, maybe a naive suggestion, but can't you just make an adaptor raiser to use just the A4000D or A1200 version instead?

It will make the board a bit taller and will add some cost to the ready-made other unit, but much less than a whole new board.
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Old 09-23-2009, 01:11 PM   #7
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Default Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?

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Jens, maybe a naive suggestion, but can't you just make an adaptor raiser to use just the A4000D or A1200 version instead?
Indivision AGA sits on top of the Lisa chip, so a "riser" would have to have an empty PLCC84 chip to make connection with the flickerfixer. In addition to such a non-existent part (at least not to my knowledge), signal length would harm signal quality. I would have done that long ago, especially with so many A4000D/CD32 versions in stock, that you're hopefully buying this xmas season :-)

All Indivision models (even the external one from a few years ago) are toaster compatible. That was the whole point of me getting into this business, to make the first toaster-compatible external flickerfixer. I thought it would be obvious that I'm following up on this tradition with my updated, internal models.

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Default Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?

@Schoenfeld

Thanx for the clarification, just making sure it works on the old but still cool Amiga Video Toaster Flyer. That also means the CD32 version of the Video Toaster will work no problem with Indivision AGA.


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Jens, I would buy one. I'm in Canada.
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Default Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?

As I was playing around last week with my A4KT I was thinking; If we could only get the indivision for this machine... So, thanks for asking and Sure! I'd buy one.
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I would buy one for my A4000T.
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:53 PM   #12
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Sign me up for one!
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No one caught my little joke? Video Toaster for CD32.

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Default Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?

Hi Jens,
as mentioned in our private emails, I don't think we can find easily 150 orders for this. However If we do i'd gladly support the production run and act as dealer on it. One of problems of A4000T is that the Lisa/Alice are often close to accelerator. And some accelerators are big etc. so thats something to keep in mind. an external flicker fixer is much safer?
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:56 AM   #15
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Default Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?

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One of problems of A4000T is that the Lisa/Alice are often close to accelerator. And some accelerators are big etc. so thats something to keep in mind. an external flicker fixer is much safer?
External is out of the question, as Indivision depends on signals that are on the chip bus, but not on the video slot or RGB slot.

So, if accelerators are getting in the way, could you all take hi-res photos of he area? I did acquire an A4000T this week, but it's not working and has the original Commodore 040 card.

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