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[bbrv]

AND, now MorphOS too!!!!

:-) :-o :-D 8-) :-D ;-)

[dammy]

Poster: bbrv Date: 2003/10/9 12:29:51

AND, now MorphOS too!!!!

Congrats!

Dammy

[bbrv]

Hi Dammy, thanks!

What is really good is that when other operating systems run on the Pegasos we can submit them for the logo too for their packaging, websites, etc.



All the more reason to get up sites like THIS one for OpenBSD ready for the Pegasos. BTW, there will be an OpenBSD distro ready for the Pegasos II launch also.

MorphOS, PegXLin, and OpenBSD for the Pegasos II!

:-D

R&B

[bbrv]

P.S. Think the AROS Team is more interested now?!

Please! :-D

...or even OS4?!?!?! 8-)

[dammy]

Poster: bbrv Date: 2003/10/9 13:10:29

P.S. Think the AROS Team is more interested now?!

Please!

AROS has one Dev for PPC, and from the last I talked to him, he's seperated from his Peg for a few weeks due to school. The rest of the main devs are also college students so developing slows down during the school year. Pity funding was so skimpy this summer for teamAROS bounties, I was hoping some decent cash would have been an incentive to get things done prior to school starting again when developing takes back seat to passing tough college courses.

Dammy

[IonDeluxe]

Hmmm, I was expecting, considering the hype, that the spec would make me say "That kicks ass compared to the Peg 1" what I got was "thats so undewhelming"
As for the rest of the comments....welcome to the mutal admiration society for the hopelessly biased

[JoannaK]

Well.. Pega 2 spces are about the same I predicted on local User group
magazine last spring. So it's more kind of evolution.. Not Revolution.

[iamaboringperson]

Good news!
When do we get the pics?

[System]

I'm no motherboard engineer but it seems to me that the nVidia nForce 2 motherboards with onboard GeForce 4 graphics don't work this way

nVidia's solution is a custom chip that has the same capabilities of the GeForce 4, and uses a custom bus controller (some Hypertransport variant) to do memory access. This is why it's so "fast".

What I was talking about was your plain ordinary common-or-garden embedded chipset - like an Intel i845 or VIA CL266 with that "Chrome" graphics. Not a fully fledged GPU, but just a quick fix to get video onto the motherboard - not high end, not really suitable for games (even the i845 plays Quake III poorly.. it's bolstered by the fact that the minimum speed CPU to use with it is some 2.4GHz)

The Intel variants of these chips used to - I don't know if they still do - come with the option of a special "cache" AGP card which was basically faster memory so that it didn't have to shuffle around using slow system RAM (this was in the days of PC133 SDRAM, perhaps DDR & huge FSB speeds have negated the need for it).

As it stands, anyway, you can't get around the fact that you don't need AGP faster than 1x with a decent graphics card. With an 8MB Permedia card, you're going to be in trouble. With a Radeon 8500 at 64MB average memory, you won't.

As for Eric_Z, what on earth are you going to use PCI-X for? I'm telling you that you don't need PCI-X cards in a Pegasos because that's not the market (huge servers and high-performance dual processor workstations, like the PowerMac G5). Most people can't afford PCI-X cards, if they even exist for the purposes people think they want them for, and don't need the added performance.

[Eric_Z]

Like I tried to say before, I can understand that you have to
make design desitions based on what will attract the larges
customer base and bring in the largest profit.

This does not, however, mean that ALL people will think of the
lack of PCI-X as good thing. Even thought (in this techno-nerd communety)
most people will undoubtedly not care,
there will be people who do, ie me.

Why am I interested in PCI-X you ask, well it's mostly due
to some crazy "server - modding" ideas that I had.
And before anybody point out the obvious, one word,
dual boot.

http://www.dssnetworks.com/v3/gigabit_pci_6162.asp
http://www.emulex.com/products/fc/index.html

[Casper]

@neko
Thank you for your insightful answers, you seem to know your motherboard electronics. =)

As it stands, anyway, you can't get around the fact that you don't need AGP faster than 1x with a decent graphics card. With an 8MB Permedia card, you're going to be in trouble. With a Radeon 8500 at 64MB average memory, you won't.

Well, the whole thing is largely academic anyway, since MorphOS (or any of the other OSes is supports) in the foreseeable future is unlikely to get any games that are at such a level where this could be an issue anyway. It took Valve more than 5 years to create Half-Life 2, so well probably see Pegasos III, IV and V before such a game would become available for MorpOS.

[AmiGR]

They do, try to overclock an NForce2 Northbridge with the GF4 chipset at the same rates that the
same chip without the gfx chipset can be overclock
and see what happens. The gfx chip will be choked.
If you try to push the system RAM, the on board gfx system will fail to work.