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Old 07-06-2003, 05:29 PM   #16
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Default Re: NASA Benchmarks Power Mac G5

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With a G5 optimisation, the G5/2Ghz should match the P4/3.2 Ghz or even beat it by 20%
One problem, one has to factor in the i875 800Mhz QDR FSB (current product release) and Prescott Core (future product release).

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There is no bench for P4 which does not have a vector unit
Pentium 4 does have SIMD unit(s), except it's broken in some cases. It’s works with most entertainment titles and media encoding/decoding applications.
This was highlighted by AMD around the launch of K8 Opteron (around April 2003). AMD also uses Portland Group’s X86-32 complier to show this case.

Focusing on Mflops/mhz ratio is nice but it’s useless** in the product release vs product release comparisons. **It’s purely academic.

I don’t know why NSAS has picked Pentium 4** when the real competitor to the PPC G5 should be AMD’s Opteron/Athlon 64. **Until Intel releases a “cheaper than Itanium” desktop/workstation 64bit CPU solution, the Pentium 4 is not a competitor in the 64bit market.

Note that Portland Group’s X86-32 complier will undergo product revision e.g. Version 5 (currently under beta testing). Refer to http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10292
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Old 07-06-2003, 05:55 PM   #17
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next month's release of Athlon-64 on same technology mobos as G5 should prove a realistic benchmark comparisons.
Note that “Athlon 64” is not a multi-processor capable. AMD64 K8 product line doesn’t map 1-to-1 with PPC 970 product line.

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http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10353
“Athlon 64” may move to Opteron’s 940 pin socket (initially). Socket 754 may go like Socket 6 (Pentium Classic) or Socket 423(Pentium 4) i.e. the market dictates socket adoptions.
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Old 07-08-2003, 02:15 AM   #18
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Default Re: NASA Benchmarks Power Mac G5

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Since computer subsystems (graphics, sound, netwoking...etc..) became commodities
You mean peripherals,add-in cards, and expansion slots.
Im referring to bus interface topologies, udma, hypertransport, rapid-I/O, full and half duplexing ...et al
As long as you have commodity expansion ports and storage interfaces, that support mass-market hardware&software standards, the rest of the machine can be proprietary.

imho, I think computers,following the mass-commodity cycle, will be more like fast food in the future.
You buy fries for example, eat them, then do you go back around and have the vendor refill your fry container with newer, warmer,better fries? no, you just order more fries, and discard/recycle the old fry container.
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