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MorphOS document released
« on: November 16, 2002, 10:38:40 PM »
(cross-posted from ann.lu)

Posted on 15-Nov-2002 17:32 GMT by nicholas Blachford

Thendic-France have just posted a new document about MorphOS. If you've ever wanted to know how to tell your A-Box from your Q-Box or where MorphOS came from (or is going) read on...
The doc can be found here:

MorphOS document (HTML)

MorphOS Document (PDF)

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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2002, 01:32:05 AM »
@Thendic-France

A well written document which helps me put Morphos in "perspective". :-)

I am "Open Minded" in regards to OSes and will look to purchase a copy of Morphos (assuming a "shrink wrap" version become available) to run on My AmigaOne.

OS4 is not released yet and although i can use Linux I do not like it as an OS. So there is an excellent chance that Morphos will be my primary OS for the A-One.

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Darren
P.S. My don't let my Avatar fool you, I am not a Zelot for any flavour of OS (I just thought the graphic looked cool). Is the butterfly protected by Copyright or can I "borrow" it for my Avatar ???  ;-)
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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2002, 06:28:06 AM »
Um, dude...
   The Boing Ball is copyrighted and trademarked. The name Amiga is trademarked. As, I would assume is Amiga OS 4.0, as a name that is.
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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2002, 06:32:56 AM »
@Agro

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The Boing Ball is copyrighted and trademarked. The name Amiga is trademarked. As, I would assume is Amiga OS 4.0, as a name that is.


Completely correct and I have to confess that I did not get explicit Approval from Amiga to use them.

However I was in correspondance with the "Author" of the Artwork and gained tassit approval (He promised not to sue ;-) )

I just think th butterfly looks good aestheticaly.

I hope I did not offend anyone and appologise  if I have.

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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2002, 06:36:48 AM »
Well, If you were trying to offend. You'll have to try harder than that and after that last guy, it going to be hard to top that.
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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2002, 11:47:33 AM »
The only thing i don't like about MOS is the fact that ultiamtly it isn't going to be an Amiga. It is a "Q-Box". (If i have read it correctly)

Sure it has a JIT emulator to run 3.1 programs, but in terms of new programs they will be running on this Q-Box.

That is how I read it anyway, I will be truthful in saying I don't completely understand the meaning of it all.
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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2002, 04:23:47 PM »
Will PPC programs written for AmigaOS4 run on MorphOS? I don't know about that; probably not, I guess. But it remains to be seen which platform is supported better. Amiga, Inc. has the brand name going for it. But MorphOS seems to have quite a bit of third-party support lined up as well. It'll be interesting to see how the applications come for each.
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ultiamtly it isn't going to be an Amiga.

This only matters to (some) current Amiga fans, and there aren't enough of them to support any new computing platform. The only way either AmigaOS or MorphOS can survive longer-term is to win over new users and new developers one way or another. How well that goes depends on the details of the operating systems themselves, and on how well the companies attract and support third-party developers. Time will tell.

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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2002, 08:10:59 PM »
Yes, but where is the X-box? :-P
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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2002, 09:27:52 PM »
Firstly lets look at the spelling:

M O S

A O S

Similarities:
They are both Operating Systems ( O S are both positioned the same)

Differences:

A & M are 13 characters apart, and mean completely different words.

A - Amiga
M - Morph



Now for the binary examination:

OS4.0 binary is incompatible to MOS x.x binary
OS3.1 binary is *emulated* 100% on MOS
OS3.1 binary is part emulated, part native on AOS4

Elaboration on 3.1 usage - 3.1 software runs faster on AOS4 than MOS x.x and migrates easier thanks to the fact that you can combine the two code bases.

Statement:  MOS is NOT AOS.  Because an OS can emulate another OS does not mean it deserves respect.  Otherwise you would see amigans licking posters of Billy the Goat.  AOS runs the full roadmap more directly than MOS ever will.

The most l33t of programmers are going the AOS way.  

And here in NZ, we are setting up financial endorsements for programmers to go AOS.

Thank you for your time.
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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2002, 11:07:42 PM »
MorphOS is NOT Amiga OS and it NEVER will be!

MorphOS is no different from many OS's like Windows/BeOS/Linux and others that can run Amiga apps via an emulator.

MorphOS will survive or fail on its own merriots and not because it can run old Amiga apps.

AmigaOS will survive/fail on its own merriots as well.

This is not a contest people!

There is ONLY ONE AMIGA OS: AmigaOS period!

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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2002, 12:05:15 AM »
Quote

Firstly lets look at the spelling:

M O S

A O S

Similarities:
They are both Operating Systems ( O S are both positioned the same)

Differences:

A & M are 13 characters apart, and mean completely different words.

A - Amiga
M - Morph



Now for the binary examination:

OS4.0 binary is incompatible to MOS x.x binary
OS3.1 binary is *emulated* 100% on MOS
OS3.1 binary is part emulated, part native on AOS4

Elaboration on 3.1 usage - 3.1 software runs faster on AOS4 than MOS x.x and migrates easier thanks to the fact that you can combine the two code bases.

Statement: MOS is NOT AOS. Because an OS can emulate another OS does not mean it deserves respect. Otherwise you would see amigans licking posters of Billy the Goat. AOS runs the full roadmap more directly than MOS ever will.

The most l33t of programmers are going the AOS way.

And here in NZ, we are setting up financial endorsements for programmers to go AOS.

Thank you for your time.


Sometimes its hard to tell if someone is joking
or is serious.. I do find it a bit funny, so okey,
Ill start laugh now.  :-P  :-P  :-P
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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2002, 03:48:27 AM »
Some of it was jokish and the rest fact.
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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2002, 05:05:06 AM »
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OS3.1 binary is part emulated, part native on AOS4


What would you call this part ?
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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2002, 10:12:34 AM »
@Amiga/Morphos:
Amiga has it going for it that its still AmigaOS (new ported version).

@Morphos document:
"wrapper for the Warp3D API is in development, OpenGL compatibility is also in the pipeline."
"At time of writing the Quark kernel exists but is incomplete. The rest of Q is still only at the planning stage"
"Almost all the information here about the Q-Box is in the future"

Right now it seems it is a limited AmigaOS 3.1 emulation with few enhancements.
And did I understand it correctly that Morphos is simply a name for the collection of a quark kernel and a bunch (currently one half) of emulation boxes?
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Re: MorphOS document - A good read
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2002, 11:17:28 AM »
Yawn MorphOS Yawn Pegasozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :roll:
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