IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers

spiffydinosaur · 08-01-2002, 02:17 AM

I saw this story on NBR ( Nightly Business Report ) could mean better pricing for PPC chips. If they can produce more chips than Mr. Jobs and Apple can buy, Amiga might just get a few at a good price. :-)

IBM factory news

Blitter · 08-01-2002, 04:51 AM

Personally I would rather they concentrate their efforts on updating the PPC frontside bus and creating better reference designs for the north and south bridge. I for one would love to see a company make reference designs the companies could make chipset's, cpu's, and memory that all ran at the same frequency. There was a short periosd in time when this did occur. But ithas long since vanished. get rid of the bottle necks and bring on Solid-State drives!

Blitter

Valan · 08-01-2002, 05:13 AM

@ Blitter
I totally agree, but what is holding up the development of frontside bus speeds?

If the bus ran the same frequency as the CPUs would this make the whole computer very hot?

I think they should go for distributed processing with slower(cooler?) chips. Then they need to work on the efficiency of the whole system. At the moment it seems that CPU speed means all.

Valan

Blitter · 08-01-2002, 05:55 AM

@Valen

Temperature... not exactley... The chipset and RAM manufacturers are still using .18+ micron processes to make ram and chipsets. there is still a lot of improvements that can be made in just changing the manufacturing process. A drop in micron based processing means large Mhz/Ghz gains and not cost in temperature. The closer you place the transitors to each other the less the friction the elctiricity causes. Which allows you to up the voltage/wave frequency.

That's a very lamens explination, but I'm tired and I'm going to bed. :-P

'night,

Blitter

xeron · 08-01-2002, 10:00 AM

Are they using vanilla wafers or chocolate ones? :-D

I can't imagine either being a very good material to build a factory with though :-D

L8-X · 08-01-2002, 11:55 AM

LOL this is what I get when I click on the link....

"Your session has timed out due to inactivity.
Please return to the home page and sign in again."

:-D

spiffydinosaur · 08-01-2002, 11:59 AM

I like the chocolate ones with the frosting inside. Don't know how well they would hold up, but, they are great with milk.

NBR

IBM story

Sorry about that the link timed out. 8-)

This liink is through Lycos instead of S&P. Hope this won't time out?

Spiffy :-D

Herewegoagain · 08-01-2002, 12:03 PM

Quote:

LOL this is what I get when I click on the link....

"Your session has timed out due to inactivity.
Please return to the home page and sign in again."

Same here...guess we got to it too late.

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Are they using vanilla wafers or chocolate ones?

Personally, I think they should use Vanilla wafers...and for the morter, it should be Vanilla pudding.... :-D

xeron · 08-01-2002, 12:29 PM

They could use vanilla wafers for the walls, and chocolate wafers for the roof.

Agafaster · 08-01-2002, 03:09 PM

Choccy wafer tubey things (the ones you can stick inice cream) all held together by strawberry Icemagic. assuming you can get the bloody stuff to set.

(199 is 4 stars ? I am now on 121 ! yayy ! come on you reds ! ) :-D

xeron · 08-01-2002, 03:25 PM

Heheheh.. I can't believe my silly comments about vanilla wafers has turned into a discussion about the best way to build a chip fabrication plant out of food :-D

Skyraker · 08-01-2002, 10:46 PM

@AGAFASTER

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(199 is 4 stars ? I am now on 121 ! yayy ! come on you reds ! )

Thats more points than forest are going to get over the next 10 seasons combined..... heh you'll be playing Blackpool next year

Best regards

Skyraker.

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