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[Karlos]

IMNSHO, the Amiga is an enthusiast's machine. They are like classic old cars. They can't go as fast as modern machines, they aren't as economic to drive, they don't have ABS, traction control, air conditioning and they are difficult to find spares for and costly to maintain. However, just like classic cars, they appeal to us for the fun factor.

I think Hyperion stated naught but the truth when they pitched OS4 with the "remember when computing was fun?" line. The time when it was a relevant platform for serious work is all but past. Rival hardware caught up and left it behind a long time ago now.

Instead of worrying about how it will conquer any given market, why not simply enjoy it for what it is? A classic piece of engineering that showed us what the future of personal computing was going to be like. Keep your machines well serviced and maintained, keep using them and pimping them out if you wish, but accept the fact that outside of ourselves, nobody else is interested in the machines, therefore it has no tangible future outside the community.

[EyeAm]

I'll never use AROS. Thanks, anyway. :-D

[Flashlab]

Ah great; so now Amiga.org has its own Helgis.

[EyeAm]

from Karlos:

I think Hyperion stated naught but the truth when they pitched OS4 with the "remember when computing was fun?" line. The time when it was a relevant platform for serious work is all but past. Rival hardware caught up and left it behind a long time ago now.

Then there really is no point, is there? :-)

I guess I'm out of here. Amiga is dead to me. I'm not posting again on an Amiga forum (I know, yay, right?).

I thought maybe things had changed, so I looked back in after Wayne's email about the site update. But...they haven't; they've gotten even worse. :-P

Enjoy your retro platform, in whatever form that is in.

*waves*

[Flashlab]

With a bit more drama, it would have been a true Helgis exit!

[Karlos]

I strongly suspect he's just trolling for giggles. If so, he'll be back.

And you know what? I don't even care, it's a laugh. Reminds me of the old days when there really were proper zealots that couldn't accept the basic reality that the Amiga had been left behind.

I think I'll stick to using my Amigas for the sheer fun of it, I'm under no delusion about using them for serious work.

[Flashlab]

@Karlos

Same here.

[ami_junki]

Hell yeah, the Amiga is still ALIVE, as long as the community still exists and there are new products being produced it is still alive. Just because it is not in the public awareness like the iPhone for example doesn`t make it dead. As long as there is new developments be it software or hardware the Amiga is still ALIVE!

[redfox]

ALIVE

[twizzle]

well my tower died last night :-(

BUT, due to having spare parts, it`s now ALIVE again :-D

[orb85750]

mingle wrote:
@bloodline,

You're spot on...

It's been and gone. It was certainly great while it lasted...

In the same was as my C64 will never be mainstream and is 'dead' as a viable system, so has passed the Amiga.

I still love playing the games and tinkering with DPaint, but that's as 'alive' as the Amiga will ever be for me...

The advantage we have over these youngsters, is that we were there to bask in the light of the heyday of the Amiga...

Cheers,

Mike.

[edited]

You guys are both confusing NICHE with DEAD. We have a trademark holder that is completely useless, yet progress on Amiga continues as the users (e.g. enthusiasts, fanatics, whatever, etc.) take matters into their own hands. Really, how can you call AMIGA dead when so much good new development is going on *despite* the best efforts of Amiga Inc. to completely destroy the once-glowing Amiga name?

Does it not seem strange that AmigaKit has 882 different Amiga product lines available if Amiga is indeed dead????

[bloodline]

@orb

No, the Amiga is a dead platform. There is no more development. It is technically static. Individual Computers make hardware that allws us to use the existing platform with modern technologies as the older ones disapear... This is just, for want of a better word, life-support... It is not driving the platform forward.

Protools NLE audio system is an example of niche, only a very small customer base and limited appeal... But the system is being developed, it is advancing... And in fact helping to drive the NLE Market forward... (note: I'm actually a Logic Pro 8 guy ;-))

The Amiga platform competes with nothing, is stuck with old technology and old concepts. In 10 years the Amiga will still be just the same... In 10 years Protools will be far in advance of what we have now!

[rockape]

@ Karlos,

I agree, he is a Mega Troll out to naysay anyone who says dead.

Which in my words makes him a right W#nker

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I vote alive

Regards, Michael

aka rockape

Founder member of LAG

see http://lincsamiga.org.uk/

[rockape]

@ EyeAm

"Even Hitler had|has fans. " --- Confirmation of trolling by using an anti social, and plainly stupid comparison.

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"Risking the invariable mention of AROS-on-x86|64, there doesn't seem to be a porting project of Amiga OS to x86-64, which has always been the bigger pool or market. "

"They say that the stem cell research will lead to cures for this. Just kidding." --- anti social and offensive.

"In screenwriting, there is a difference between 'activity' and 'action'. I want to see some action in the Amiga world." --- and now by your trolling you are.

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"Just as a sidenote here, I think Carl Sassenrath is under Non-Disclosure with Amiga Inc. I've asked him a couple of times now if he's working on OS 5 with them, and no response about it--not even a "Much as you'd like it to be true, no." And to think, he periodically talks with Bill McEwen."

"I think Carl Sassenrath is under Non-Disclosure with Amiga Inc"

"I think? " --- so no proof.


"I've asked him a couple of times now if he's working on OS 5 with them, and no response about it"

And this confirms what a right W#nker you are if indeed there is development under NDA. (substitute Troll for W#nker if you wish)

More proof.

@ EYAM


"www.amiga.org Posted on: 2009/5/9 6:22"

"Re: Awareness by classic Amiga users about modern Amiga's?

I can't say I'm surprised people don't know about those--I barely know of them, myself (like, where to get one, etc.). I understand enough that not one of those things mentioned is a full-fledged computer, but instead is either a motherboard or a card that goes into some slot; and that all are 'classic' (if that) in nature, and not a piece of it with a CPU that is AMD or Intel.

As far as steps to be taken, including advertising, etc., I won't offer any until I see on the Amiga Inc. website a press release that "Amiga will now be put on x86-64 CPUs" and run on CPUs by AMD and Intel. Til then, what's the point? (beyond this, I have extremely hostile words)"

"(beyond this, I have extremely hostile words)"


So you start a Poll which only allows a yes or no answer about the Amiga being a dead platform.

Which because of human nature you know people will give explanations as to yes or no, thus giving you the chance to attack and give you that rosy warm feeling as you reply.

Because of all the yes replies and your counter statements I bet your on your second box of tissues by now .

It will make you go blind you know.


Michael

aka rockape

[Viking]

EyeAm wrote:
Poll Question:

Which word, in your opinion, best describes AMIGA today--DEAD or ALIVE?

ALIVE.

But my own power-Amiga is dead. I do believe in a life after death though.