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Old 12-16-2008, 01:47 PM   #1
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Default Hard drive converters

I'm getting ready to part from my old SCSI-harddrive connected to my BPPC due to lack of 80-pin QUIET scsi-hdd's on the market (10000 rpm's is pissing me off). So i've decided to use a converter to connect an IDE or SATA harddisk to my BlizzPPC. Now i've tracked down a couple of possibilities:

1. use an IDE-to-SCSI converter to use IDE HDD's
2. use a SATA-to-SCSI converter to use SATA HDD's
3. use an IDE-to-SCSI converter connected to a SATA-to-IDE converter to use SATA HDD's.

Now i've examined and option 2. is a rather expensive one and i don't know if option 3. works (2 converters connected to each other). Has somebody tried any converters? If then please share your experiences!

Thanks :-)
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:58 PM   #2
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

I'm using a CF-IDE adapter connected to my Cyberscsi through a IDE-SCSI converter.

It brings many advantages:

- The CF card is faster than when I'm using an IDE harddisk with the IDE-SCSI converter
I'm getting ~7.5 MB/s with a 4 GB Sandisk Ultra II CF card. With a Maxtor 40 GB IDE harddisk I got ~6 MB/s.

- It's silent.

- The case of my Amiga 4000 is a lot cooler now

- It uses less power than a harddisk.
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:01 PM   #3
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

Damn, never thought of this possibility though i have a CF-IDE adapter on my IDE-port :-)

The problem is the size: i have much stuff on my 36GB SCSI-HD and i don't think there's such a CF card to hold the amount...

But thanks for the idea :-)
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:08 PM   #4
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

i think the largest CF card you can find at the moment is 32 GB.
They're rather expensive though.

Edit: just had a quick look

Saw a Transcend 133x 32 GB CF card for 75€. They might be cheaper in the US.

I think a SCSI-IDE adapter with an IDE harddisk would be the cheapest solution.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:22 PM   #5
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

Ok, thanks. I'll see what choice i run into.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:33 PM   #6
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

Acard has some nice SCSI-SATA bridges:

http://www.acard.com/english/fbnewprod01.jsp

3.5" cases with various SCSI-interfaces, that you can put 2.5" SATA disks into. :-)
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:50 AM   #7
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AF they are not compatible with BPPC but thx anyway.
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:40 AM   #8
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

Quote:
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i think the largest CF card you can find at the moment is 32 GB.
They're rather expensive though.

Edit: just had a quick look

Saw a Transcend 133x 32 GB CF card for 75€. They might be cheaper in the US.
$99 for a 32GB one on Tiger Direct (same card as you saw).
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:43 AM   #9
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

One thing to note: Hard drives are much faster than CF cards when it comes to the Cyberstorm PPC / CS MKIII. It's UW SCSI3 is able to run in the 40MB/s region.
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:08 AM   #10
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AF they are not compatible with BPPC but thx anyway.
Sorry, what isnt compatible with BPPC?
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:11 AM   #11
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

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$99 for a 32GB one on Tiger Direct (same card as you saw).
Prices seem to vary a lot. I saw one here for 68$. Next best price was 78$.
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:21 AM   #12
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

The Acard SATA to SCSI things work quite well with a CSPPC/CSMKIII, you do have to set them to asyncronous transfer mode sometimes though (At least I had to when I used one)
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:36 AM   #13
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

go with a CF as your HD...nothing like SILENT computing :-D
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

Have a look here at the botom they have SSD disks. the 32gig disk ain't too expensive.
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Default Re: Hard drive converters

CF is fine if you're just playing a few games or something, but if you need real performance you need something more suited to the job, like the SSD or a -gasp- real hard drive.
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