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[Dandy]

Belial6 wrote:

I want a 100% or at least close to 100% Amiga 500 hardware and kickstart 1.3/AmigaOS 1.3 compatible computer that is not beholden to a single company. We have the hardware. We now just need the kickstart/OS.
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But Kickstart1.3 and Workbench1.3 are available since ages!
:-? :-? :-?

Belial6 wrote:

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Form factor matters. I have many games in more than one form factor.
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:-o
You have games in a form factor?

I thought form factors were for motherboards and cases and the like...

[Amithony]

I still like the idea of a Quad PPC core Amiga. Then Denise and Paula can also have quadruplets

[Amithony]

amigadave wrote:
Peace on Earth!

Then...

Sorry, I rate the return of the real Amiga higher than peace on Earth. Peace will be a side effect once everyone is happy with their amigas once more.

[dammy]

by HopperJF on 2008/12/2 16:06:26

I don't really want x86 architecture I like the Amiga having its own identity. A more powerful SAM board in the future would be great or anything along those lines.

Problem is of course, what's different on a SAM440 mobo then you would find on a x86, other then a different CPU arch? If you really want something different, it's going to have to be anything but a desktop. Unless, of course, you have a billionaire ready to spend untold hundreds of millions on custom chip development and production. And be prepared to eat it all when the ROI on said investment fails to materialize.

Dammy

[darksun9210]

some direction. no more lawsuits. all this infighting is just killing whats left. but maybe that is the intention?

we all know what made amiga special to each of ourselves, otherwise why else would we be posting here? :-)

so we are after something that captures that special spark that inspired us all to begin with. and given the current bland crop of corporate regurgitated focus group based offerings, an amiga in some form or another seems the best option at the moment?

Hyperion for the Win! :-)

[uncleted]

The Amiga hardware advantage is long gone (since 1992) and every computer has custom chips in it these days.

This anti-X86 attitude is unproductive, as is that "what is a real Amiga" debate. A real Amiga is what was produced by Commodore and AT before their untimely death. You can still get them and use them for 15 year old stuff. Nothing wrong with that either, if it's what your here for.

The closest you will get to an Amiga now is something which reflects the OS goals, Intuition and the like, however it can't be achieved in a modern way without sacrificing a lot of its legacy. That means the best you can expect is an Amiga-like OS with a similar API. This is pretty much what we have now with Morphos and OS 4.1. If these OSs are to progress they will have to become increasingly more foreign to OS 1-3 die hards.

Anubis is a reaction to the fact that AROS is hampered by legacy, people are desperately wanting modern stuff to run on it, and it's hard to develop fun stuff into it while retaining compatibility with a 15 year old OS.

The saddest part is that for most people, an Amiga was a glorified games console, so most won't even remember Workbench, let alone have programmed anything.

[Belial6]

Dandy wrote:
But Kickstart1.3 and Workbench1.3 are available since ages!
:-? :-? :-?

You have to read BOTH sentences together to understand the statement. You cannot just ignore the first part.

[Tension]

1) I want Dave Haynie to buy all Amiga IP and start some type of Amiga company.

2) I want free beer and sex on a stick.

[kolla]

recidivist wrote:
Newtek's Video Toaster sold more high-end Amigas than anything Commodore did.The Toaster was THE editing tool for small and medium projects,and even the yet to be named "pro-sumer" could afford the system.

Much of the Amiga's special appeal was that it could use an ordinary home television or an equally affordable monitor but its success was really tied to NTSC video.The switch to digital TV and the near universal display for computers pretty much takes care of all that.

So what the heck did we buy amigas for here in PAL-land, huh? In UK amiga was mostly a gaming machine, but then again, any computer in the UK was mostly a gaming machine. Sorry, any computer in the UK mostly _IS_ a gaming machine. That's just how the brits are, obsessed with silly games. :-)

But the rest of us?

I know what sold most "high end" amigas in Norway at least - SCALA - no doubt about that. Very much for the same reasons that the video toaster sold amigas in the US.